Why Does Democrat Party Chief Disagree With Democrat F.D.R.?

Question

Howard Dean is "Against military tribunals, labeling of "enemy combatants".

In World War 2, Democrat President F.D.R. used military tribunals to find enemy combatants guilty. Within hours of the court rulings, the terrorists were executed.

My guess is liberals today would be screaming from mountain tops if our government currently treated enemy combatants the same. Is it true today's liberals play footsy with enemy ?combatants?

Howard Dean:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/issues/index.dean.html

FDR and enemy combatants:
"http://writ.lp.findlaw.com/books/reviews/20030725_dean.html
"On August 8, 1942, FDR completed his review of the proceedings. The President ordered the execution of six of the men, sparing Burger and Dasch because they had cooperated. (Burger was given life, and Dasch, 30 years.)

More :" FDR felt his actions sent a message to Hitler, as well as those who cooperated.

Within hours, all six of the men given death sentences were executed in the electric chair. The rationale for the use of the death penalty seems to have been that all of the men could legally have been shot when they landed in their Nazi uniforms. Moreover, according to the logic of the day, they had only compounded their offense by changing into civilian clothing to go about their mission. "

More: the Supreme Court referred to F.D.R.'s executed criminals as enemy combatants (enemy belligerents).

1942: SUPREME COURT SAYS YOU CAN BE an enemy combatant.

Supreme Court:

""Citizenship in the United States of an enemy belligerent does not relieve him from the consequences of a belligerency which is unlawful because in violation of the law of war. Citizens who associate themselves with the military arm of the enemy government, and with its aid, guidance and direction enter this country bent on hostile acts are enemy belligerents within the meaning of the Hague Convention and the law of war. It is as an enemy belligerent that petitioner Haupt is charged with entering the United States, and unlawful belligerency is the gravamen of the offense of which he is accused"
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/quirin.htm

More: The laws against terrorists have changed little in 2000 years. Romans were the first to create an anti-terrorist law. They labeled enemy combatants as "Homo Sacar(latin)" and said they had no rights.
Today, terrorists laws today are based on that law. It was the same in the U.S. since nearly the foundation of our country (Alien And Sedation Acts Of 1798). The law was changed in 1940's by an Supreme Court interpretation of the constitution which ruled that enemy combatants are entitled to habeas review. That didn't stop FDR from executing enemy combatants that were found guilty in military tribunals. He executed by electric chair within hours of them being found guilty.

Answer 1

Dean is a socialist panzi who should be tried for treason. The socialist takeover of America is almost complete.

Answer 2

FDR also interred Japanese citizens and Japanese-American citizens in special camps. That was wrong, just as apparently he was wrong in the case you mention.

If the execution of those men was meant to give a message to Hitler, you might have noticed it did not work. Hitler fought until the Soviet Army pounded on the door of his Berlin bunker.

Another thing that you overlook is that the Nazis arrested were wearing military uniforms. There was no doubt about their allegiance or their intentions. On the other hand, most of the detainees in Guantanamo were civilians turned over by other civilians in return for money.

As a liberal Democrat, I can disagree with many things FDR did (such as stacking the Supreme Court), but that does not diminish my admiration for the many good things (TVA, Social Security, etc.) that he did.

Answer 3

That's ridiculous, the whole practice of expediating trials of suspected enemies of the US is a dirty one. If someone is guilty of something, let the court determine it. Don't rush the proceedings so you can get them out of your hair. When you do that you run the risk of prosecuting the wrong people, and when that happens you anger lots of people and in the end you perpetuate the cycle of violence. So these speedy enemy combatant trials are actually helping terrorists, why do you want to help terrorists?

Answer 4

My guess is that unlike their opponents the Democrat party looks forward not backward. Times change and so do beliefs and attitudes. Whether people keep up is up to them. Dr. Dean is a man of today President Franklin Roosevelt was a man of his time.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

Because the Democratic Party is a very socialist party... and socialism is a lighter form of communism..

Therefore, the Party chief is like... "Nah uh, we aint no socialists, we dont like FDR, no no no sah!"

Eventhough it is fact that the Democrat philosophy is orginated, and is undebatably similar to, communism... The democrats know that the general public will digest anything they tell them, so they tell them that they arent really socialists... and they know and expect the general public to believe them. And they do.

Liberal, pro-life, anti-logic people play more then footsy with the enemy... they play MEAT SHIELD with the enemy.

its the uninformed world we live in today.

Answer 7

Today's rightwingers would have a great president like Eisenhower run out of office in disgrace. What's your point?

Answer 8

... here is the flaw in your logic...

standing up for someones rights doesn't mean you support their actions... which you clearly imply it does...

do you support the KKK's right to free speech?

I do, even though I hate what they say...

but if one person's rights are violated, NO MATER WHO IT IS... it paves the way for other rights to be violated...

the old quote "I don't support what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it... "

we're in America... that means we do things the RIGHT WAY... the MORAL WAY... and the HUMANE WAY...

it doesn't matter if you agree with the person or not...

IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO JUST TAKE RIGHTS AWAY THAN IT IS TO ACTUALLY STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT...

these are old ideas that are the foundation of America... why do Republicans constantly confuse these issues?

FDR clearly violated some of these (in many ways)... and I don't think it was right then... or now...

Answer 9

Because the US has gotten so full of itself that we think we can legislate away our problems instead of actually doing something about them. We are in deep doo-doo.

Answer 10

The democrats have brought us so many 'new Americas' that I don't recognize us from 20 years ago, let alone 60!

Answer 11

The better question is why DOESN'T he disagree with FDR on economic issues!