Why are so many Gays so sure that they cannot be saved and still Gay?

Question

I know that many times here the Fundies show up to condemn Gays ( LGBT's ), but are you listening to them. Do you think that there is a special reason why you cannot be a sinner AND be saved at the same time?

I ask this because I care about those that really have it in their heart to come to God, but live in fear that they will be rejected by Christians that comdemn them.

I want to assure you that nothing is further from the truth. I'm Bi and I am saved. Not because I can stop doing wrong, whether I think that being bi is wrong- it could easily be something else. Anything that I have regrets about- not necessarily being Bi.

But after 20 years of being Christian I have grown in my relationship with God. I have had Bisexual relationships within that period of time, and I am still good with God.

I want all of you to know that you can do the same. ( :

If I came judging, you would call me judgemental. But I came to encourage, and you still call me judgemental.

I didn't say tht I wanted to saved them. I came to encourage.

What's so hard to understand about all this?

Da ben dan,
Thanks, and you are ever the peacemaker. I realize what you say about turning it off. It's not those that I am trying to reach. I welcome all comments, positive or negative though. Who am I to deny them? I also hope that this Christian seems different to them. I too suffer the rejection, but I actually benefit from it. ( :

spyrockz,
Good? I am not trying to be good. Basic Christianity 101 for you! lol

newartist,
There is a site that I spend time on:
factoropinion.net

It is not a Christian site. I am the only one there. There is someone from England on YouTube who is a gay guy named Nuodai who runs the site. Please stop by and we can talk about many things, including that. I'll tell you stuff, you decide if I am telling the truth, okay?

All,
E-mail me if you want to tell me something, good or bad. I thank you all for your participation. ( :

Answer 1

I understand your concern, but your concern comes from a BELIEF system, not a system of facts. There are many people who believe that there is nothing to be "saved" From. You can be concerned all you want, but I seriously doubt you can make anyone change their beliefs to yours.
Thanks, but no thanks.

Answer 2

I often set back and wonder why people come on a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgendered board and preach at people they don't know. But then I think that they are at home and have nothing better to do with their time. Frankly I am not going to listen to anyone that thinks they have to put their whole life around a book that was written and rewritten so many times I am surprised it still has the same name.
Its like Rocky 1, 2,3...... The Bible 1, 2, 500..
If God does hate gays then wait until it gets rewritten again when It says God Hates People that cant think for themselves or listen to someone from the pulpit.

Answer 3

Thank you. I respect your knowledge and lack of condemnation of us. You must (and I'm sure that you do) realize that much of the GLBT community has turned away from religion...because it's hard to believe in a god that people tell you thinks that you are an abomination. Perhaps with a little more understanding between our two groups there can be some peace...at least you are extending the olive branch and I am listening to you. Often, within the first 5 words of a religious comment on this site one's brain goes into auto 'delete' mode--like next question. You seem to have something to say that is worth listening to. Thank you.

Answer 4

and 5.) Mark 10: 6 "yet on the commencing up of creation God 'made them female and male.' 7 'hence a guy will circulate away his mum and dad and be united to his spouse..." This verse, the only time Jesus Himself is quoted as asserting something close to the subject be counted, is then taken out of context and used as a definitive fact that Jesus grew to become into against homosexuality, examining an purpose in the undeniable fact that only isn't there. Jesus took away the legalism and prohibitions in Mosaic regulation and adjusted with the hassle-free message of love and know. Paul, who by no skill heard Jesus pontificate, positioned the assumption of legalism and prohibition lower back in, alongside with a number of his very own prejudices, in keeping with risk.

Answer 5

Im not really sure what it means to be saved. I have my doubts, but mostly for other reasons. I am a gay christian. I use to go to my families church and was even baptized there and they didn't even know I was even gay at the time. I wasn't happy with that church though. Am I saved? I don't know. Do I want to be? Yes. But I don't want a church or a family member thinking they are christian enough say I can't be because Im gay. I think I can understand what you are saying though. Thanks.

Answer 6

The Lord gave humanity the gift of free agency,that is the ability to choose between good and bad, but accompanied to that gift is another gift which is the knowledge of what is food from evil, don't judged people the way they are, it is there choice, and in that choice they made, they will harvest what is right for them...
You can never tell when this people would changed just like you, good for you that you are good now, but why not help others too.

you can not served 2 master at a time, you can never tell you are with God if you are not following his commandments, having bisexual sex then saying you are good is a hypocrite person...

Answer 7

Good for you that you can find true comfort and meaning in your faith. Don't make the assumption that everyone follows or even wants to follow your beliefs. The problem with faith is that it is so blind and unswerving rhat it leaves no room for flexability, which in turn causes a whole load of grief, death and destruction from a personal level through to society in general.

Answer 8

Why religious people tend to be so judgemental? I was bisexual, too and now I'm married and have no longer sexual interest with people in the same sex, but I don't try to recruit people to follow my footstep! Let them be, they are happy like that. What makes you think straight people are better people than gay or bisexual?
Quit being judgemental, isn't your religion or your God telling you not to??

Answer 9

well it looks like im on a one way ticket to hell as im a sinner....who wrote the bible anyway cuz that person ssooooo contradicted hiself/herself i thought christians were loving and forgiving people who dont judge who also say only god can judge you, so why the hell are christians doing it i dont have anything against people who beleive in god as that is their prefrence just like who i go bed with is mine.

Answer 10

Gays are as confused as they are with their sexuality. Many doesn't know that immorality leads to damnation in hell.
It's not true that doing BI is acceptable to God. In fact God hates hates Sodom and Gomorah because of homosexuality.
please don't mislead other gays.
God love gaus and all bisexual but he wants them to repent and walk in the ways he presented in his word, the bible.
I don't condemn gays or bisexual. I pity them and I want them to be saved just as i want others to be saved. Everyone is especial to God, straight and bisexuals alike. but the thing is, as I have said, people need to accept the lord jesus Christ in their hearts and to walk according to what God has prescribed in the bible