can someone please help prove this math trick with inequalities
(a/b) < [(a+c)/(b+d)] < (c/d)
if you don't believe me that this trick works try it out for yourself.
like for instance:
(2/3) < x < (5/6)
just add the numerators and the denominators across
(2+5)/(3+6) = 7/9
and indeed
(2/3) < (7/9) < (5/6).
2007-01-30
17:14:39
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prove algebraicly, just because it works for an example doesnt mean its proven, also, adding it across isnt a valid mathematical operation, i.e you normally cant add numerators and denomators together
2007-01-30
17:22:27 ·
update #1
Well, first off, this can only be true if:
(a/b) < (c/d),
for fairly obvious reasons. :) But, if we assume that that's true, and that neither b nor d equals 0, then we can do this:
(a/b)*b*d < (c/d)*b*d, which yields
ad < cb
From here, we'll go two different ways. First:
ad < cb
ab + ad < ab + cb
a(b+d) < (a+c)b
a(b+d)/(b(b+d)) < (a+c)b/(b(b+d))
a/b < (a+c)/(b+d).
Which makes the left-hand inequality true. Then,
ad < cb
ad + cd < cb + cd
(a+c)d < c(b+d)
(a+c)d/(d(b+d)) < c(b+d)/(d(b+d)
(a+c)/(b+d) < c/d.
Which makes the right-hand inequality true.
This is actually a pretty neat set of inequalities; I didn't believe myself until I proved it. :)
2007-01-30 17:29:15
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answered by happymutant42 1
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one example, does not a proof make.
That's like saying x^2 = 2x all the time because 2*2 = 2+2.
Tackle it from the perspective of you're dividing each peice more times. So even if you have more peices, by adding the denominators, you're making them all smaller. I don't have the time to put it into nifty generic letters to prove atm, but I'd go from:
2/9 and 5/9, where 2/9 would be <1/2 of before, and 5/9 would be <1/2 of 5/6. so less than 1/2 + less than half is less than whole, and then something similar for the greater than to sandwich the two.
btw, a=5, b=6, c=2, d=3 isn't a counter because 5/6 isn't less than 2/3.
2007-01-31 01:24:07
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answered by brothergoosetg 4
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So you want to prove that, for real numbers,
(a/b) < [(a + c) / (b + d)] < (c/d)
It's false.
Choose a = 5, d = 1, b = 1, c = 1. Then
(a/b) = 5/1 = 5
[(a + c) / (b + d)] = [(5 + 1) / (1 + 1)] = 6/2 = 3
5 < 3 is already false, for half of the inequality.
What I suspect is that you're missing some additional condition. Possibly something like 0 < a < b < c < d
2007-01-31 01:28:57
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answer #3
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answered by Puggy 7
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Counterexample:
a=5, b=6, c=2, d=3
2007-01-31 01:23:02
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answer #4
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answered by Andrew 6
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a/b < c/d
ad < bc (after multiplying both by bd)
ad + ab < bc + ab
a(b+d) < b(a+c) .... then divide by b and (b+d)
a/b < (a+c)/(b+d)
going back to step 2, add cd instead to get
ad + cd < bc + cd
d(a+c) < c(b+c) .... then divide by b and b+d
(a+c)/(b+d) < c/d
Finally put the 2 inequalities together.
2007-01-31 01:37:50
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answer #5
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answered by Philo 7
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first we assume that a and b are relatively prime....(just to set that a/b is the simplest form)
then there exist c/d = ax+k/bx --------- where x,k >= 0 ; to show that a/b < c/d
so we need to show that
a/b < [a(x+1)+k] / b(x+1) < (ax+k)/bx
first a/b < [a(x+1)+k] / b(x+1)
< [a(x+1)/b(x+1)] +k/b(x+1)
< (a/b) + k/b(x+1)........true.
second [a(x+1) + k]/b(x+1) < (ax+k)/bx
[a(x+1)/b(x+1)] + [k/b(x+1)] < (ax/bx)+k/bx
a/b + [k/b(x+1)] < a/b + k/bx
[k/b(x+1)] < k/bx
since b(x+1) > bx
then [a(x+1) + k]/b(x+1) < (ax+k)/bx ......true.
(a/b) < [(a+c)/(b+d)] < (c/d) ......true!
2007-01-31 02:09:33
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answered by 13angus13 3
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Given:
a/b < c/d
then
(a + c)/b < c/b + c/d
(a + c)/b < c(1/b + 1/d)
(a + c)/b < c(b + d)/bd
(a + c) < (b + d)c/d
(a + c)/(b + d) < c/d
a/b + a/d < a/d + c/d
a(1/b + 1/d) < (a + c)/d
a(d/bd + b/bd) < (a + c)/d
a(b + d)/bd < (a + c)/d
(b + d)a/b < (a + c)
a/b < (a + c)/(b + d)
and
a/b < (a + c)/(b + d) < c/d
2007-01-31 02:23:01
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answer #7
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answered by Helmut 7
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This may help.....don't think of them as fractions.....think of them as division operations. That's all a fraction really is.
2007-01-31 01:17:58
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answer #8
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answered by Yep! 4
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um...looks like you just proved it yourself....
2007-01-31 01:17:21
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answered by cyahlaytar 2
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How simple your problem is. Why dont .................................................... got it?
2007-01-31 01:40:35
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answered by Anonymous
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