Feminists don't you think that if you want equaity...?

Question

you should stop bashing men, stop complaining because guys don't hold the door for you, stop b**ching you broke your nail at work, that you can't work cause you're having your period etc.. and accept the fact that you need short clean nails to be a doctor
then maybe you'll get paid as much and be allowed to do more jobs, you also get paid maternity leave for 9 month and guys don't so that's another reason to get paid less...

stop thinking it's ok to hit guys cause they are stronger and tougher and then say '' guys shouldn't hit girls cause they are stronger'' but still hit guys. Stop saying '' I can do any job as good or better than man..'' Have you ever thought they are some jobs you could never do as good? Anyway if you stop doing a lot of those stuff maybe things would be more fair.

Also if you want things to be fair, don't you think you should fight for laws that are only good to women or descrimination against men?

skaur1290: just reading your pathetic argument makes me laugh. You're obviously one of those retarded feminists if you think women should be able to hit men and get paid more

Answer 1

NO ONE gets "paid maternity leave for nine months..." inform yourself, please. It's embarrassing. And your entire argument is based on the PRESUMPTION of women "bi!tching" about "blah, blah, blah..." but that's NOT what the feminist movement is all about (the feminist movement is about women b!tching that they broke a nail, or that guys don't open doors for them? And female doctors don't get paid as much because they won't wear short nails...WHAT? You make NO sense)...again, inform yourself, maybe you will realize that while some women may occasionally make these complaints, or assumptions, most feminists DON'T! And if you detest this so-called b!tching on the part of women so much, why are b!tching so much yourself?

Answer 2

Stop bashing men: who does this? I don't.

Stop complaining because guys don't hold the door for you: The rule is, if a door is opening TOWARD you and someone is walking through it, you open it for them. Or, if you're walking through a door and someone is behind you, you make sure it doesn't slam in their face. These rules should be followed by men and women.

Stop b**ching you broke your nail at work: who does this? Long nails are tacky anyway.

That you can't work cause you're having your period: again, who does this? Actually, in Korea, women get one day off per month as a "period" day. Incidentally, they do not have high gender equality. The whole idea is anti-feminist.

Accept the fact that you need short clean nails to be a doctor
then maybe you'll get paid as much and be allowed to do more jobs: please see my point above re: nails being tacky, and who is complaining about this anyway???

You also get paid maternity leave for 9 month and guys don't so that's another reason to get paid less: I live in Canada, and women OR men can opt for parental leave. Unfortunately, gender roles dictate that the woman usually takes it. If more men took it, then women's careers wouldn't be interrupted. If you, as a man, don't have the option of taking parental leave, you should consider voting for someone who would support that - most likely, a feminist.

Stop thinking it's ok to hit guys cause they are stronger and tougher and then say '' guys shouldn't hit girls cause they are stronger'' but still hit guys: a) Violence is never good, whether it's male-to-female, male-to-male, female-to-male, or female-to-female. b) The reason stopping violence against women is such a huge issue isn't necessarily because men are "stronger," but rather because it is a traditional way for men to show dominance over women. Violence and economic dependance have kept women submissive for generations, which is why the right to work and the criminalization and public awareness of violence against women are important in women's fight for equality.

Have you ever thought they are some jobs you could never do as good?: First of all, it's "do as WELL," not "as good," and second of all, no, I haven't.

Also if you want things to be fair, don't you think you should fight for laws that are only good to women or descrimination against men?: I think you mean "against" laws that are only good for women. And I would like some proof of a single law that is discriminatory against men.

Answer 3

I agree - equality means being equal, not superior and that goes for both genders. I think you must have had some pretty harsh experiences with women though to be able to reel off so many examples of injustice - no wonder you feel enraged by it all!

I'm not sure what 'allowed to do more jobs' means - that seems a bit paternalistic to me. There is enough legislation in place now in most developed countries to enable any person to apply for a position and expect a fair chance at success for a job that they are competent in, regardless of gender, culture, race, sexual orientation etc.

You seem very angry about this and I can understand this, especially if you have had direct experience of any of the injustices that you have mentioned which had caused you to generalise the behaviour of the few to what you now expect from all feminists. I think that such stereotypes can be dangerous as they are inciteful to hatred and will only become more and more removed from reality.

I would call myself a feminist but I am also an individual who has opinions on a variety of different topics. I read your piece and I felt sorry for you as I feel you have had some unfortunate experiences that have now coloured your perception of feminism.

You mention some small points such as broken nails and doors being opened but your main focus here is what you began with, 'bashing men'. I take your point about domestic abuse - using physical force against another person is wrong and reciprocating to that attack will only keep the cycle of violence going in that relationship. No-one should tolerate this, so please get some professional help to whoever you are thinking of when you talk of it - and try to deal with your anger as that will only lead to the dark side!

Answer 4

The crux of this argument is that if you want equality, you have to accept the "bad" aspects of it as well as the good; yes, you will be paid equally, and considered equally for promotions, but you will also not have the door held open(which we do as a gesture of politeness, not condescension), you will opt out of Affirmative Action, When you start an altercation with someone it may become physical, and you can't use the "but I'm a woman! What animal man hits a woman?" excuse anymore, nor can you use the term, "Sexual harassment" to describe conduct toward you which may be harassing, but in the spirit of equality of the sexes, the gender aspect must be excluded from consideration, and many other ways that leveling the playing field doesn't sound so nice. I personally wouldn't hit a woman, but there are others out there who aren't as gentlemanly as I.

Answer 5

Boy in some instances I can agree and in others I can not first of all I have never seen a female doctor who had long nails. And as for holding doors it was breed into some gentalmen to do that for ladies.God help men if they ever felt the excruciating pain of having a heavy period at times your so nauseated you cant even move and the cramps are so bad you just lie there. And than you get really intense headaches and are in so much pain your miserable. And when you do get up your lucky to make it to the bathroom b/c the blood is just pouring down your legs and your still nauseated so you dont no what to do sit or hug the toilet. And yes we are intitled to maternity leave are would you like to be responsible for delivery of a baby or the health of mother and child. What if there is complications in the pregnacy there isnt a company who wants to be reliable for that.I strongly disagree with anyone hitting and both should walk away.Some women use this for a excuse so they can get away with it but its wrong.As far as the job situation I thnk it should be who is better suited for the job. And sir there are alot of men out there who also bash on women.Think of the diffrent cultures and how the women are treated. Think Twice.

Answer 6

I have no idea what planet you are from but your arguments are totally without merit. You are attempting to upset women in general and you certainly won't. I can do any job probably as well if not better than a man. I have short clean nails and I have seen a lot of filthy, dirty, men that I would certainly hesitate to allow pick up my rubbish let alone deliver health care services for me.
Stop carrying on with your ridiculous stereotypes, your debate is inane at best.

Answer 7

hmm.. i don't bash men in general (only specifically, and not because they're men, because they're morons). i never mention my periods, i open door for men, i don't give a sh!t if i break a nail unless it bleeds, and i don't get 9 months maternity leave--i get the same 'family leave' as any man does. hitting is for children, no self-respecting adult should hit anyone. and i can do any job a man can, some maybe not as well as others, but that can be said about any two people. and as a FEMINIST i fight for laws that protect WOMEN's rights, sorry, you men have had lots of time and people looking out for you & your rights, we're just tryin to get equality and autonomy. sorry if that takes away from your power over us. maybe you should treat others with respect so it's returned to you, rather than belittling--BASHING women? talk about inane b*tching.

Answer 8

Whoa!!! I stoped at the maternity leave part. Who gets 9 months maternity leave. I don't get any at my job. Most women only get about 3 weeks. Hey, we have to breastfeed. And my husband gets paternity leave and I know other men that have gotten like 6 weeks of paternity leave. Do your research before you start saying stupid things.

Answer 9

I hope you realize that you are stepping into very dangerous territory here. The woman's fight for equality is a never-ending battle and no matter what happens, society will never let women become equals. But that doesn't mean that you men get to b**ch about us trying to fight for it anyway.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe women bash men because they are the cause of all this controversy with women's rights? Did you ever stop to think that maybe women get paid less at jobs because men are chauvinists who don't and probably will never see women as equals?

And I bet you never stopped to think that the reason women get paid for maternity leave is that they're bringing a NEW LIFE into the existance and that sure as hell takes money. That doesn't mean that we should get paid less than men. That should mean that we get paid more, not less, for bringing life into existance and continuing this cycle of life that you men b**ch so much about.

Lastly, women don't hit guys because they think its ok, women hit them because you ask dumb questions like this one. Seriously, stop b**ching about something that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with you.

Answer 10

One of the most under-reported crimes in the nation is women abusing men. Men don't report because they're embarrassed so women keep getting away with domestic abuse against men. No justice in that. Women can be just as abusive as men toward others, including against partners. Women are rarely charged and, if so, rarely found guilty.

Being an unusually tough woman, in my own right, I'm not what I view as a feminist. My choice is egalitarianism where everyone, men and women, are fairly paid for work they do with gender having nothing to do with income. What I call a real woman knows her worth and stands up for herself at home, in society and in the workplace. A real man, to me, is one who knows who he is, what he likes [and likes to do] then lives his life without apology, not feeling better or lesser than anyone else.

Thankfully, men's support groups have started in many cities and towns all across the nation. Men are granted custody of children almost as often as women, anymore. We enjoy more equality than ever before. Men who want to can open doors for a lady and women can return the favor, as helpful. The key is respect for oneself and others, with unwavering respect at all times. Respecting ourselves commands others' respect.