Do all pro-abortion arguments ignore the fact that the woman has a child inside of her?

Question

"It is her body, she can do what she wants with it". I can agree with that, it sounds like an argument for suicide.

But would it make sense for me to say "it's my body, I can do what I want with it", and then kill you, using that as an excuse?

No! Which makes just as much sense as abortions, She can do what she wants with HER body, but not the body inside her! It is a whole other person!

Can someone please explain this?



Another question. When people say "we should make abortion legal, because people will do it anyway", doesn't this apply to ALL crimes? Should we make ALL crimes legal, because people do them anyway?

Answer 1

Of course they do. They are convinced that it is not a child. To them it's just a blob of tissue and cells, not a living human being. But if a pregnant woman's "fetus" is killed by an accident or crime, a death certificate is issued for the "child". Go figure.

Answer 2

The question here is WHEN does the fetus become a "child." There are various opinions on this matter and that is where the controversy begins. The extremes being at conception and actual birth.

Your other arguments don't make any sense because you are clearly affecting someone else (with the possible exception of the suicide laws). Note that the point there is whether or not the unborn fetus IS or IS NOT a person yet.

I'm not trying to ake either side, just offer what the issue is from a legal standpoint since that is where you posted this question.

Answer 3

It's not PRO abortion, it's PRO CHOICE. People should be able to choose what they want to do. Some may not choose abortion, but they should have the right to if they want or need to. The question as to when life begins is controversial at best. I suppose you are opposed to embryonic stem cell research too? How do you think those little embryos feel frozen for years at a time? Then they get thrown away in the trash because they aren't wanted anymore. Is this different than abortion because the embryo was created outside the womb? I THINK NOT.

They say keep it legal because when it was illegal, not only were the abortions happening in back alleys, women were dying as a result of un-regulated procedures.

This does not apply to other "crimes" as you put it. Just remember what happened with prohibition for example. Didn't work, alcohol is legal and drunk drivers kill thousands each year. They kill themselves with liver disease and cancer. We pay millions of tax dollars to support them, give them treatment that only works 20% of the time for 20% of the time. It's a vicious circle, but alcohol will continue to be legal.

It's stupid to think we should make all crimes legal. And immature. Child molestation and rape are things that are crazy to even suggest being legal.

Answer 4

No, in fact I don't think there are any pro-choice arguments that ignore the fact that there is a human developing and growing inside of a women.

Many of them are based on the legality of demanding that someone be forced to give up bodily integrity for the continuation of life of someone else. Which is, of course, illegal. No one can force you to give up a kidney or a heart or a lung to someone else. Just as no one can force a women to give up nutrients, grow another organ, or face personal risks for a fetus.

And when I physically harm you in a way that might lead to your death, actually, yes, you could kill me legally.


And, no, we shouldn't make all crimes legal because we allow abortion to remain legal. The argument you state is a false argument, and I give you permission to laugh at any pro-choicer who uses it. But, you must realize that abortion has a legal leg to stand on, while robbing a bank doesn't, no matter how many people rob a bank.

Answer 5

Wow, you sure picked a "hot topic"...

Abortion is not, nor should it ever be, a means of "birth control". HOWEVER, there are times when an abortion is the best option available.

Consider the pregnancy that is a product of an incestuous attack or a rape. Consider the pregnancy that isn't moving along appropriately and the fetus, IF it makes it to term, will not have a life but an existence on tubes and machines.

I am frustrated with the "anti-abortionists" who, while they are against the freedom of a woman to choose, are also unwilling to be part of alternative solutions. I've often spoken with people who are anti-abortion, yet don't support a welfare system that works...one in which a young mother who does carry her baby to term can get assistance with housing, education, etc. I've encountered people who are anti-abortion, yet who wouldn't personally lift a finger to take in an infant handed over to a "safe haven" such as a hospital or police station, and who are opposed to the very existence of such accomodations.

In your final paragraph you compare abortions to other crimes. The fact of the matter is that in this country abortion is not considered a crime, so the comparison is a moot one.

I've never had an abortion, and I don't think I would have one unless my life was endangered by the pregnancy or something like that. However, I have known people who've had to struggle with the idea of it, and people who've had to live with the aftermath of making that decision. In no situation have I met someone personally who took such a choice lightly.

I've never had an abortion. I don't forsee myself ever making that decision. However, I will stand for the rights of others to have that option available should it be necessary within their own lives.

Answer 6

No. Some consider the health and life sustainability of both people.

Have you considered the following circumstances...
Woman was raped by her father.
Woman will die if she carries the child.
The child is not a viable fetus. The child will die inside of the mother.
The child will die in the birth process.

I do NOT agree with abortion as a means of birth control, . However, it is incredibly naive to think that is the only reason for abortion.

Don't make laws that have exceptions. The police and the courts are horrible at making those kind of distinctions.

Answer 7

I do not believe that all people who are in favor of abortion are in denial. Many are focusing on the rights of the woman being paramount to the rights of the child.

If the pro-life groups are going to make an impact they need to approach it from the perspective of the benefit or harm to the woman. They have to show that abortion would be of greater harm to the woman than having the baby. There is information out there, pro-life people need to study it and get the information out there. The pro-choice groups have come at the woman from that perspective, now it is time for pro-life to catch up.

Answer 8

Since it can't survive outside of her body, it really isn't another person. It is more of an extension within her own body.

And the second part doesn't apply to all crimes. The main justification is that you want doctors to be able to legally be involved. If people are going to have abortions, you want them done by doctors. Doctors wouldn't assist other crimes, so it wouldn't make sense to make them legal based on this argument.

Answer 9

1. A pro-abortion stance would mean that one would be in favor of all people having abortions no matter what. Thus your semantics are wrong.

2. I sincerely hope that you are adopting or fostering the unwanted children of people who choose not to terminate. If you are going to try to take responsiblity of a woman's body, take responsibiity of the end result.

Answer 10

There are no shades of gray with you are there?

Abortion is not illegal. Yeh, we should make all crimes legal just for people like you who think they know what is best for everyone.

Why don't you do something useful with your attitude like working to help make the way easier for pregnant women trying to have their babies. Make a difference instead of a righteous argument that you don't want real answers for.

Answer 11

You may not like abortion (who really likes it?) but you have to agree that there is not other situation comparable to it - a person with a POTENTIAL life inside of it and dependent on it. So it is dealt with differently than anything else. Concern given to the potential mother and concern given to the potential child. Early term abortions are allowed and late term abortions are regulated.

75% of Americans agree with that.