I answered a question by some fool who wanted to know why Republicans vote for evil and greedy men.?

Question

I pointed out 3 Republicans who could not be considered evil. Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Eisenhower.

One liberal claimed that Lincoln was actually a Democrat, even though he was the first republican president. If I could just claim any president was a Republican than I pick Washington and FDR as well they were really Republicans if you don't agree check the history books.

Some other genius stated Lincoln did not free the slave due to any moral obligation.. If you were a slave whould you give a crap why some guy freed you? You would be thnakful that he did free you. Check out the former slave reaction to him when he visited Richmond after the city was taken in 1865.

They critized Teddy Roosevelt because he believed in eugenics. Hey moron what will the people 100 years in the future think about our values and beliefs?

My question is are liberals so jaded by hatred for the Republicans that they can't even admit these were 3 great men who just happened to be Republicans?

Answer 1

It is surprising that people who are supposed to be so tolerant can be so blinded by hatred.

Lincoln and Roosevelt are two of the greatest American Presidents. The neo-liberal Democrats have never been above rewriting history when it suits their needs.

Answer 2

Debating over a president who served almost 150 years ago is pretty useless. It is safe to say the Republican Party Lincoln knew is a bit different from the same party today; therefore, your point is without merit. The same can be said about Teddy Roosevelt. He abandoned the Republicans and joined a third party. He was the Bull Moose, after all. Additionally, I do not believe Roosevelt's excessive love for the environment qualifies him for membership in a modern day, let's-drill-in-the-Alaska Refuge Republican Party. As for Eisenhower, he was living high off of the backwash of WWII. He was a war hero. That accounts for his popularity. It wasn't because any of his ideas were novel or he was excessively good as president, in comparison to FDR or Truman. In fact, I believe Eisenhower, from both a general and president's stand-point, would be disgusted at how the current administration has handled the war in Iraq.

Answer 3

Some people are so jaded they can't see the good in the other side. That is true of Dems and Republicans. I am a liberal, but I voted for Reagan twice and thought he was a good President. I wish I could have traveled to Washington when he was lying in state, but is a 6 hour drive each way. I think there has to be a balance of both ideologies. Americans tend to agree, as power seems to shift back and forth periodically.

Answer 4

FDR was a Democrat, a fact derided by his friends and family. He was called a traitor to his class by them and many refused to speak to him at all socially. Simply using Republican as the name of a party doesn't mean they held the same principles as the party who bears their name does now, perhaps you might want to look into that, as the Republicans were very anti- civil rights from around 1900 to 1976. I will overlook your calling anyone who disagrees with you a moron, because you overlooked the fact that it is now over 100 years since Lincoln and you didn't check those political values and beliefs before you wrote this. The fact is that they were great men, and great men don't need an apologia for their political connections.

Answer 5

the Demon crat president Buchanan tried to make the 13th amendment passed prior to Lincolns election. At the time it was a law making Slavery legal!. When Lincoln was elected he said he would veto any such law even though he realized it meant WAR. He overcame the War in spite of being the MOST hated president in all History. Lincoln SAT in Congress everyday until the RE-Written 13th Amendement , making Slavery Illegal,was voted on and he signed it into LAW right then and there. Lincoln was very surely the MAN that ended Slavery in the USA. White men did not invent slavery But millions of White Americans paid the Ultimate price to make sure it was erased from America!

Answer 6

Please, please, PLEASE, listen to yourselves. Liberals hate America? Conservatives hate the poor? What a load of crap on both sides. There is a right-wing party in the dumbpublicans, and an even righter-wing party in the repugnocrats. The last 'liberal' president was NIxon: he believed in detente with the Russians, he started talks with the Chinese, the EPA was formed during his administration as was Title IX. Is that liberal enough for you? But
it still doesn't change the fact that he was an arrogant s.o.b.

When will you get it into your heads that a government of the people, by the people, and for the people hasn't existed for, perhaps, 100 years, regardless of who was in power, and those who are in power love the petty squabbling over liberal and conservative, left and right, moral or immoral.

The great experiment in democracy is dying and we want to blame the patient for being sick.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

Yes liberals are jaded by hatred. Their main goal is to defeat this president in any way possible. Even though, he's not running again.

It must be a nightmare to be a Liberal. I would hate to be a liberal and have to look at that face in the mirror in the morning, knowing the rest of my day will be with-out smiles or any resemblance to sanity or being able to face any modicum of truth.

As a liberal, knowing that I will have to go through the day with no conception of reality. If you find a liberal and s/he has a smile on their face, you better believe they think they just found a way to impeach bush. No matter the harm or death it would bring to our brave soilders.

Answer 9

not a whole, no... but there are many who feel that way.

the parties are so different, but they both have the same general goal: a better country... they simply have different ideas of what to do to get there.

i think that extremes either way are out of touch with reality. an extreme liberal refuses to accept that any conservative is a good person, just as an extreme conservative person claims a liberal is a terrible one.

Answer 10

I think that you should get a degree in History and study your concepts in full. I think you should do a lot of reading on the matter, things that you disagree with and things tht you agree with and bounce those ideas around in your head.

I am a very liberal thinker, but I don't have problems like your last paragraph brings up. There are, of course, good and bad in both parties. for instance, I would not vote for Hillary if there was a 3 legged dog running in a third party. I can remember Roosevelt dying and when Truman came into power and the congress beating him to death. Eisenhower was a good man, but a do nothing president. However his speech given at the inaug. of Kennedy stands as one of the most insightful speeches ever given by an exiting president. Eisenhower may have almost done nothing, but he was stabilizing for the US that was freshly out of WWII.

The main problems that bother the republican today are those, now on the outside of politics, who are Neocons. That movement started as early as the Nixon Administration and aside from the Presidency of Ford and Carter, did not do much in politics until Reagan came into power and then they set their agenda into action.

You failed to mention Herbert Hoover as a great president. Of all the presidents, the three most humane were Jefferson, Carter and Hoover. Hoover did nothing wrong during his administration, his only mistake was being there when everything fell apart.

Part of the problem with republican administrations has been the preponderence of corruption. Grant, either Coolidge or Harding, Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II are the most corrupt administrations in American History.

I don't think that all of those presidents were corrupt themselves, but those whom they chose as advisors put them into the position where their corruption characterized the administrations as corrupt.

Little things like presidents sleeping around, like Clinton did, are not uncommon in the presidency. Either cooledge or Harding, I don't remember which, fathered an illegitimate child while president. Roosevelt, when he died at Warm Springs, GA, did not have his wife with him, but a girl friend that he had had for years. Eisenhower spent most of his military life in an affair, and there are rumors galore about Johnson's sexual tryst. And there are probably more.

Lincoln was a republican; Roosevelt was a democrat. Roosevelt might be difficult to figure out, but most of his presidence was in war time and that requires a lot, so a social agenda was secondary to winning the war. Eisenhower was irreligious throughout most of his military life, but when elected, he was basically told that society wanted him to have a religious presence, he joined the Presbyterian Church.

If you read much about the John Adams administration, you will find out that he was about as paranoid as the Bush/Cheney administration. He passed the Alien and Sedition Act and had people taken to court for stating publically that they disagreed with him. Washington did nothing for eight years.

Jackson was an interesting president and I suggest you read about him and his "kitchen cabinet." Being humane was not one of his strongest points.

You have a misconception about the Emancipation Act, it only affected the free states, those that remained with the union, and had no effect on the slave states. Emancipation might be considered a strong point, but there are stong arguments that it did nothing but place uneducated blacks into a position where they had to survive on their own in a world that did not offer them much opportunity. Symbolic, it was, but functional, it was not.

Answer 11

I don't know why we have to be bilateral parties in the first place. I don't think it does any good anymore...it just divides Americans. Back in the day, I think "Republican" and "Democrat" meant much different things than they do today--we had much bigger things to fight for back then. Now, everything the parties do causes a fight. It's silly.