Liberals: Do you see a difference between capital punishment and abortion?

Question

If so, what?

I know the difference. But I'm asking liberals if they do.

"Bert T", have you ever heard of adoption? Wouldn't that be better than KILLING the unborn?

"Bert T" and "Aqua Rose", have you ever heard of adoption? Wouldn't that be better than KILLING the unborn?

I suppose that you would be for euthinasia as well, Aqua Rose?

Answer 1

Democrats care about murderers and child killers.
Democrats do NOT care about unborn babies.
There is Money & Power in being Pro-Choice.
It is a real Money Maker & Vote Getter.

Answer 2

It is a mistake to cast either of these issues as liberal vs. conservative. More and more Americans, both liberal and conservatives, are coming to oppose the death penalty for pragmatic reasons, rather than ideological ones. If your premise is that politics determines views on these, you cannot have a useful dialogue on either issue.

Here are a few verifiable facts about the death penalty. As you can see, there is nothing in these that relates to the abortion issue.

Re: cost
The death penalty costs far more than life in prison. The extra costs begin even before the trial.

Re: Possibility of executing an innocent person
Over 120 people on death rows have been released with evidence of their innocence. If we speed up the process we are bound to execute an innocent person.

Re: DNA
DNA evidence is available in no more than 20% of all murder cases. It is no guarantee that we will never execute an innocent person. It is human nature to make mistakes.

Re: Deterrence
The death penalty is not a deterrent. Murder rates are actually higher in states with the death penalty than in states without it. Moreover, people who kill or commit other serious crimes do not think they will be caught (if they think at all.)

Re: Alternatives
More and more states have life without parole on the books. Life without parole means what it says and is no picnic.

Re: Who gets the death penalty
The death penalty is not reserved for the “worst of the worst,” but rather for defendants with the worst lawyers. When is the last time a wealthy person was sentenced to death, let alone executed??

Re: Victims families
People should know that the death penalty is very hard on victims’ families. They must relive their ordeal in the courts and the media. Life without parole is sure, swift and rarely appealed. Some victims families who support the death penalty in principal prefer life without parole because of how the death penalty affects families like theirs.

Last of all, opposing the death penalty does not mean a person condones brutal crimes or excuses the people who commit them. I believe that the dialogue on the death penalty should be based on verifiable facts. People should make up their minds using common sense not revenge.

Answer 3

Liberals, what a way to define yourself.

hmmm, at any rate, i don't have a vagina, womb, or any of the necessary equipment to carry a fetus to term and give birth. That being said, my personal feeling is that it would be nice to birth a child, but, that is not to say i would attempt in any way to thwart the informed decision of a person so equipped to carry a fetus to the time of birthing a human.

now for capital punishment, capital punishment is a barbaric form of retribution for an act that a person has been accused of. I don't believe that execution of a person is anything other than state sanctioned murder, it does nothing to correct the crime, and it's sole purpose is pure, unadulterated revenge.

Odd I think; That we as a society kill people to show that killing people is wrong.

Answer 4

Yes I do. Very much of one. I see the difference between a child being born into a poor and broken family, or that child never having to bear those memories. I can see a child molested or beaten, or a child never having to deal with that in the cases of abortion. Capital punishment, I see the government and legal system becoming a murderer themselves, and playing the hand of God in killing another person. Regardless of what they've done, vengeance solves nothing. Neither does capital punishment. At least with abortion we can possibly lower the chances of a child being brought up badly.

Answer 5

Yes, and no. Both are ending life that we have not given (for God alone can give life, and God alone can take it)

But because an embryo does not yet have self-consciousness, and does not therein have a soul (my personal belief) it does not constitute life as we would describe it as a human being. However, at about 5,6 months or so, it does gain self-consciousness. At this point it is murder to kill the child.

I am neither pro-choice nor pro-life.

BOTH ABORTION AND THE DP ARE WRONG

Answer 6

I am not all that liberal, but there is a difference. In capital punishment there is reason to believe the victim has committed a crime against society, in abortion, the victim has not even given a chance to commit a crime.

Capital punishment is barbaric behavior, abortion is ignorant behavior.

Answer 7

Pro Choice.

Answer 8

I see a difference in ending a pregnancy the potential mother (white or black, but almost always on the poor side) had no business beginning in the first place, than in forcing her to bear a child she neither wants nor is prepared to raise, forcing that child to grow up ducking drive-by bullets and rats in his bedroom, forcing that child to attend a public school where they have to pass through metal detectors and crack vials are being found in junior highschool lavatory wastebaskets, eating school lunches which virtually guarantee they develop high blood pressure, kidney disease, obesity or diabetes, then shoving them out, illiterate, unprepared, into a society which has no use or compassion for them, which offers as their best choices, pro athlete, drug thug or a career in the military for college money. They choose soldier, they MAY come back, they may not. When they choose drug thug, we arrest them, jail them and give them the death penalty.

Any which DO get through all that unscathed, cannot retire until 65. The average life expectancy for a black man in the US in 68. So they paid into SS all those years, 45, 50 years sometimes, to get 3 years worth of benefits in return.

Answer 9

The vehemence and venom within is amazing. And the question is posed by someone who has not deliberated the issues adequately.

Answer 10

Only in dollar signs.