why and how have all of the communist holocausts been so effectively hidden all these years?

Question

http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi-bin/museum1.cgi

17 million dead?
30 million more dead in one campaign?!

Did I read that right?
Why is this ignored in schools?
And what's worse is - what if the heart and structure of communism is alive and merely hidden?

Knowing what I now know about the ACLU, that's the last place I'd start, and I'm no longer real crazy about Amnesty International either. Sad. I have hopes that shoot far higher than those organizations can (will) reach. But thank you for trying.

Answer 1

I don't believe that it's ignored in schools any more than any of the other great slaughters of mankind. It can be argued, however, that these have become awfully common.

It has little to do with Communism, which is at heart a perfectly reasonable idea for an organized society, at least until you try to get it to work. It seems, however, that Communism's centralized structure makes it fairly easy for dictators to take hold. The fascists of various stripes were certainly no better, and their governments and philosophies, especially those of Germany, were indistinguishable from those of, say, Russia prior to World War II.

The dictators and slaughter will be back under different names; they always are.

Answer 2

The same happened with Chairman Mao and also, to a lesser extent, with Chang Kai Shek in Formosa, now called Taiwan.

The reason that they are not emphasized is that one cultural group has chosen the concept as their own, regardless of what other culture groups were being wiped out at the same time, and that culture group has survived on making other cultural groups feel bad about their persecution.

Other holocausts, closer to the US, took place in Cuba. Then, if you want to consider killing off American Indians a holocaust, you can place them in there also.

As for communism, there are too many variants to say that the concept is dead or hidden, it is neither. I doubt if anyone in this group could give me a history of all of the philosophers, religious figures, and other writers who had taught that communism is the best social answer.

Marx is a Johny come Lately to the world of suggesting a communist society. Leninism, Stalinism, and Maoism are not Marxist. Marx actually wrote columns for the New York Herald during the American Civil War, thinking that the South's action was a proletarian revolution - but the south was not a proletariat society.

Answer 3

Well not to be critical of all libs (Because it is not all libs), but the far left libs are pushing for Communism as the best way of life, how can you sell that Idea if people are aware of the brutal history behind it.

Its the same with Socialism, people try to detract from the fact Hitler's Germany was in fact a socialist state. And claim it was a Conservative political structure, when the truth is Socialism is a Liberal Idea and form of government.

In the 50's and 60's they taught the "evils of Communism". Yes some was propaganda but most of the info was based on facts. In the 70's people started to say Communism was the better way of life because the "evil Capitalists were trying to steal from the People", and there was a hard shift towards that ideal. It became politically incorrect to discuss the evils of Communism because the idea of Communism was "equality and sharing" how can those ideas be evil?

and the trend continues to this day.

post WWII I heard nothing of Russia and what happened there. I had to learn it on my own. and even today many people I know did not know about the Purges of Stalin's regime, or the ones in China.

The person who controls the information is the person who directs where people go, and I think this is a case of the powers that be pushing for one philosophy rather then letting people make up their own minds.

Answer 4

Well, why hasn't the issue of the massacres of Turks at the hands of the Russian army, starting back in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, been addressed? Why hasn't the situation in Chechnya been addressed? Why do people deny the Holocaust in Europe? Why do we ignore Kosovo? The massacres in Manchuria by the Japanese? The killing of anti-communist Albanians? Lack of education, lack of initiative, lack of social justice, trivial governmental concerns, lack of a voice for both the human rights movement and the peace movement, who address these issues. People need to vote and speak out, sign petitions, join civil rights groups. The ACLU is a good starting point and so is Amnesty International.

Answer 5

Because too many people from politicians, to writers and intellectualls purposely white-washed communist crimes or made it possible for politcal reasons.
Secondly, the Soviet Union fell and was not overthrown so for reasons of national pride the Russians have shut off access to their archives which document the mass murders perpetrated by Stalin. Many of the killers are still alive and living on pensions.

Plus the communist crimes were not racially motivated. They were in a manner of speaking "PC" crimes.
Red China is alive and well but it suits everybodies' agenda to let sleeping dogs lie.

Answer 6

Yes and these figures are probably below what really happened. Now, if you're wondering why it's not mentioned any more in schools, you have first to think as to why it was forbidden to talk about it at the time it blatantly went on.

The sad truth is there was a clique of self-righteous, quite antagonistic people who styled themselves as fighters of the evil, free thinking observers. What I can see nowadays on Y!A with this kind of skirmishes between liberals and conservatives very much reminds me of the intellectual terrorists at work at the time of "Communism". Partisan thinking is the shortest way to losing freedom.

Answer 7

I guess because of the cold war. Not much information came out of the Iron Curtain.I never heard of the 1915 genocide of the Armenians by the Turks until just recently.

Answer 8

it wasn't ever hidden. in fact i grew up during the cold war it ended when i was in middle school and i herd all about how evil Stalin was along with the rest of them. the Siberia death camps every thing in fact we even learned how they killed half of the polish army and tried to blame it on the Germans but used the wrong ammo in fact after Stalin got Poland he went through and killed all the smart polish people.Russia was our enemy so we leaned all about how evil they were

Answer 9

of course its hidden in most countries but the funny thing is the communist countries are becoming more socialistic and the socialistic is becoming more communist.. Like Russia and USA .. have changed places lol..

Answer 10

People do not know for the same reason they do not know that the Boxing heavy weight champion is from Russia...