He owns one of the biggest riding stables in Brecon.. should he be shamed.. my info is that they are working 50 hour weeks and getting 150 to live on. Have to use their own vehicles to get up the fields etc... what do you guys think eh.
2007-01-28 15:24:16 · 14 answers · asked by Chrisey 4 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
The minimum wage is a legal right which covers almost all workers above compulsory school leaving age. There are different minimum wage rates for different groups of workers as follows:
The main rate for workers aged 22 and over is currently set at £5.05 an hour. On 1 October 2006 this will increase to £5.35
The development rate for 18-21 year olds is currently set at £4.25 an hour this will increase to £4.45 on 1 October 2006
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16 and 17 year olds rate
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£3.00 per hour from 1 October 2004. This will increase to £3.30 in October 2006.
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2007-01-28 15:53:09 · answer #1 · answered by katie 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
i did not answer your last question on this. as the two answers posted covered the subject perfectly.
however in this instance, if the girls (detailed ion the previous question) are not on a training scheme, or aprentaship etc, and are paid on the books, then he has a legal duty to provide not only the minimum wage, but to pay national insurance contributions etc.
as for them using own vehicles, most employers expect you to be able to get to work under your own power at no aditional cost.
though if you have to travel for work as part of your job (say a traveling salesman, delivery driver etc.) then the employer should be paying you a minimum fee for compensation for the running and maintenance of your vehicle.
so if your friends are able to be paid the minumum wage then you should report the stables and the employer to the appropriate authorities for them to investigate and take action.
who knows your friends may get a court judgment for the wages they are owed (the difference between what they have been paid and the minimum wage or wages for a comparible job at a different stables).
are they issued with pay slips detailing how much the wage is, what tax rate they are on etc? if no and the stables is paying them cash, then you could be doing your friends more harm than good if you report him.
as he will be prosecuted and your friends will be out of work and possibly on job seekers allowance.
you need to look in to this in a detailed and almost journalistic, police manner. to get all the facts before you take any legal step to remedy the problem.
3. an hour sounds not quite right though taking in to account tax and national insurance contributions.
as a general guide (though not 100% accurate) if you divide the take home pay by 4 then multiply by 5 that will give you the total (if paid weekly for example) then divide that by hours worked to find the hourly rate. This is the figure including tax and NI.
£150 / 4 * 5 = £187.50 / 50hours = £3.75 per hour in the example salary (wage) detailed in the question. before tax and National Insurance. (perfectly legal for those between 16 and 18years of age.
I stress that is just a general guide and not 100% accurate. it will give an approximate value.
Remember too that it will depend on the age of your friends. as detailed by the first person who answered your last question.
as for what i think, if the allegations are true and the stables are not paying at or above the minimum wage it is disgraceful and your friends should leave the employ of the stables and report the matter to the authorities and also should make sure that the stables goes out of business byu getting hold of the client list and informing them of the problems at the stables.
£3.75 would be minimum wage from almost ten years ago. so either the stables have not kept up with employment law or they have and are deliberately breaking the law inorder to keep there prices artificialy low to keep there clients.
either way it is not best practice. as your friends need a bare minimum to live on (hence why the minimum wage was set) anything less than minimum wage and it forces your friends to apply for state benefits such as housing, council tax and income support in order to live a basic minium standard.
I hope that helps.
2007-01-28 15:57:15 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
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2016-10-16 06:00:23 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Minimum wage for any Legal British Citizen is 5.35 p.h....If he's paying less report him. If he's employing Illegals report him.....
We have a unemployment problem believe it or not because the government opened the floodgates young people can't find employment anymore.....What a Great Country we live in....
2007-01-28 15:41:05 · answer #4 · answered by 284561 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
That would be £3 per hour, that is £2.35p short of the minimum wage, is his name Ebeneezer buy any chance, report him to the fair wage commission, or whatever they are called now.
2007-01-29 02:02:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
He will get out of paying this low rate by saying he is giving them accomodation. The best thing is for them to get other employment. This employer seems to know what he is doing. check if they are paying NI and have tax deducted. You may get him on that
2007-01-31 09:12:51 · answer #6 · answered by Professor 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It is not fair,he is cheating them and i think these guys have to stand up for themselves,they have to research about how the payments are being done then they have to discuss this with him and if he fails to understand them then they should report him to labour officers.
2007-01-28 16:00:53 · answer #7 · answered by peedee 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There is the minimum wage act.
He may pay their board and lodging, if so, I'm not sure how that would make up the difference.
2007-01-28 18:26:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
think he should be made to pay national minimum wage 5.50 per hour unless they are 16 or under
2007-01-28 15:54:29 · answer #9 · answered by magiclady2007 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Contact the authourities and have him busted... And contact the papers and the press as well to shame him.
Thats illegal
2007-01-28 22:13:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋