Why do Democrats think they have a chance in '08?

Question

I mean we know the polls don't mean a thing, when Republicans come out they come out in huge numbers. With Hillary and Obama in the picture, I can see the largest Republican turnout ever, even more than in '04. Do they have any "real" candidates that have a chance at winning?

a lot of you seem to be too focused on the war. Remember, Democrats were in favor of it as well, and are now trying to back out of it. The fact is that today, most Americans are working, and the economy is doing well, better than it has in a long long time. If more Democrats supported the war as they did initially, there would most likely be more support over seas as well. Imagine if we had large number of troops from every country capable of doing so, and the worlds support. Iraq wouldn't even be an issue, it would be under control. There would be less casualties, and more order. Instead, everyone turned their back on us, most of the world and roughly half the country, and is blaming Bush. I guess it's all in the name of peace, to let a tyrant rule a country right?

a surplus that was headed down quickly towards the end of the Clinton administration. A surplus that was the result of 12 years of Republican policies prior to his administration. I feel national security will be a big issue in '08. Do we go with Democrats, who have been weak in this area for decades (Carter and Clinton were great weren't they!!), or Republicans, who ended the Cold War, liberated Kuwait, liberated Iraq, liberated Afghanistan, Panama, changed the Libyan policies, and are war mongers because of this.

Answer 1

I think they will nominate Hillary. If they do there is no way they can win. She doesn't have enough people who feel passionately in favor of her. Quite the opposite. Many moderate deomcrats (like my in-laws) can't stand her and would stay home rather than vote for her.
*** Add: You democratic people on here who think the '06 elections were won by democrats because of their candidates/issues are oh so wrong. The '06 sweep was a message to the republicans from conservatives. Do what we, the people want or this could be you. No doubt the conservatives will come out in droves for the right candidate, the liberals (especially Clinton) won't have a prayer.

Answer 2

Well we know the answer now. Rampant voter fraud. I was a life-long democrat, as was my family all the way back before the 70's; as of about 4 years ago I am independent. Democrats have lost their minds. They've continued to make problems that could have been solved worse then they started out to be. They go against the will of the people on every issue. Any government official that won't serve the will of the people should be impeached but we have a president that refuses to do what American citizens want and goes as far to take away their rights to representation in the government by bypassing congress at every turn. The country has turned into quasi-dictatorship instead of a republic. I would rather republicans run offices, if they will serve the will of the people or even better a third party. I also want my votes to mean something and want elections protected from voter fraud. No stuffing the ballots or illegals voting. Citizens have a right to have their voices counted in a fair elections and have their votes mean something. I'm still proud to be an American and proud of American culture and I'm tired of the people like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid telling Americans that should feel bad about it. Democrats are just lame and have made everyone poorer and it's beyond old. I'm ready for the awesome times to come around again like it was in the 80's and America is not going to have that under any democrats. Third parties or even Republicans are the only ones who have a chance to bring back better times and more money for people.

Answer 3

I think after give the other party 8 years to run the government, people will probably be willing to give Democrats a chance to change things.

I agree with you that Hillary is perhaps the least electable candidate in terms of her unfavorable rating among Republicans and independents. The other problem is that she could inevitably cause Republicans to put together a well organized campaign that will cause people to volunteer and donate in droves to whomever their candidate is. That is a very dangerous scenario for both parties as well as the nation.

I posted an article on my blog last night about Hillary and that I don't think she's being forthcoming enough about her views on Iraq. I read another blog noted when she was asked a question about Iraq, she instead answered that she thought it was important to have good health care for military members. I can't speak for the other person, but I am a liberal Democrat.

The problem is that she can't give a straight answer. Working off a script simply doesn't cut it. I realize the campaign wants to focus on one issue a day and hit it hard, but it's kind of ridiculous and insincere behavior (I was and still am an avid West Wing fan).

I hope to God she doesn't win the nomination. If she does, we are going to get stuck with a Republican for the next four years.

Answer 4

EXACTLY the same logic can be used regarding the '06
elections. If the war is actually won, then I would say that
the Democrats don't have a chance. I don't see that happening.
Most Republicans don't see that either.

Otherwise, the Republicans who generally agreed with
Bush won't have a chance. The Democrats who didn't
disavow him fast enough won't have a chance.

The "neo-con" movement has lost its "neo". They have
the most tarnished record in recent memory. Indeed,
the Democrats would have to be pretty inept to not
win this coming election.

Of course, the Democrats have a pretty good record
for being inept.

Such questions are made just for causing ire, and not
at all for generating useful debate. I suggest you ponder
why anyone would ever vote for a Republican that
thought "morals" was a reasonable measuring stick
for a candidacy.

If the Republicans try to use morality as their standard,
conservatism will be lost for the foreseeable future.

Hopefully, fiscal conservatives will get out of Americas
bedrooms and back to their board rooms where they
might actually do some good.

Correspondingly, I would hope that America's morally
conservative have figured out that trusting people
try to equate business prowess to Godliness on the
whole can't be trusted.

The Republicans blew it by electing
this administration. They blew it with
all of the corrupt and immoral
people they put in office over the last
few years.

I'm not saying that the Democrats are
guaranteed winners, but the only way
that would lose is if they are tangibly,
measurably worse.

The argument that Bush isn't running
in '08 depends on people not seeing
the aftermath of the Republican war
on the daily news.

Answer 5

They are hanging on the people choosing a Democrat just for change. They dont really have a strong candidate for the election. They will push the Iraq war for votes. Its sickening the way the Democrats did that with that past election. People wake up the senators and everyone else down the line does not have a say in this war at all. Its been approved and Bush is the only one who can bring the boys home. I know this is not an open forum on the war and all. But people of America wake up. Do you really think we have troops over there just for this Iraq skirmish? Why does Bush want more troops over there? Plain and simple once Iran has that bomb the bloodshed we see now will pale in comparison. Support our troops,support our government and God Bless the USA.

Answer 6

The Democrats have misinterpreted their recent legislative return to power as a genuine desire for a socialist revolution in the US. To call that an overreach is an understatement.

Don't think that their slim victory will dissuade them...add to that the recent crop of conservative Democrats elected. Pelosi will surely whip them into line for now, but the constituents back home will not be pleased with their newly minted 'new' Democrats toeing the liberal line.

The recent Democratic triumph resulted primarily from media-driven discontent with perceived setbacks in Iraq. Even with that advantage, the Democrats have already retreated from their campaign posturing as the anti-war party with their feeble 'we don't support our troops - no wait - we don't support their mission, but we support them - no wait - we support the troops but not that awful president...' rhetoric, coupled with the even more emaciated resolution pledging their patriotic non-support of giving the generals in Baghdad the troops they asked for. Talk about Vietnam all over again. If they had any virility, they would have instead emaciated the Iraq war budget.

So...what to think. Apparently, the Democrats think that Bush 43 is running again in '08. This will be a fresh ballgame to be sure.

Things are uncertain. Let's look at the crop as it sprouts:

Hillary excites the opposition as much, if not more than, her base constituency. In the spirit of Bill Moyers, Obama talks for an hour and might utter ten seconds worth of substance. Edwards is an ambulance chaser and lost the last go round - not too exciting. The extremely charismatic Dennis Kusinich still thinks that the US is ready to embrace Marxism to the degree he and Ted Kennedy do.

Still, it's anyone's game at this point. Keep your eyes on your wallet.

Darth Serious

Answer 7

It is way too early to tell who is going to even be running come November, 2008. It would seem that the Democrats have gotten awfully cocky about their chances, however. I think it is great that they believe the Conservatives who voted against Republicans in '06 have all of a sudden all become Democrats. Nothing could be further from the truth. They did not vote Democrat, they voted against Republicans. If the DNC believes the RNC does not know this and that they are going to work against this happening in '08, Democrats are in for a rude awakening. But, like I said in the beginning, the election is too far off for anyone to even try and guess who will win. Ask this question again next January, and everyone will have a more educated answer, instead of the guessing you have received thus far.

Answer 8

Democrats think they can win because so many people despise Bush that they will vote against the Republican party, just because of Bush. I think this is a terribly stupid thing to do, because then you don't even know if you're voting for someone "worse" than Bush if you don't even check out the candidates and what they stand for. Besides that, from what I know, Barrak Obama is actually a pretty cool guy. He was on Conan O'Brien so that = cool. But I don't see how they think they're going to get anywhere with Hilary.

Answer 9

Honestly they remember the damages from past Democratic Presidents....The public Embarrassment they caused and I really don't believe A Democrat would win ....but in case they do get lucky....America will never be the same....call us Osama Country!


Giuliani would be a good President,.... he led NY through 9-11 and didn't lose it, he helped make NY what it is today! He's The Leader we need!!!

Answer 10

The Republicans have had their chance. Look what has happened during their watch.

1. Lies about going to war with Iraq
2. Corruption on a grand scale
3. More money pouring into the war and rebuilding Iraq. Where is the help in rebuilding New Orleans or Mississippi
4. I could go on and on about why the Dems. should be in the White House.