Why is there such a hard push to justify homosexuality, to try for marriage rights etc.?

Question

As a large number of people is this country see homosexuality as going against the norm, why the push to "normalize" the unnorm by going for the normal eg(marriage, etc).

I ask this question not to insult, or villify, I ask because my Daughter is gay, and in meeting her friends, I met one very beautiful inside and out friend of hers who committed suicide, basically because of rejection. And in my opinion this type of thing would not be a much of a problem if you had more self-acceptance. Upon further study I find out this is all to common. Would it not be better to push harder for self-acceptance, than some other grand-idea. We are losing too many good people this way. I am not God so I do not want nor can I validate anyone, that is not what this question is about. People should validate thamselves whatever the persuasion or preference.

Answer 1

'Normal' is a subjective value judgement. There is nothing that is inherently normal or weird- it's society that puts that label on.

As to norms in genreal, yes, you're right; heterosexuality is the majority and homosexuality is the minority. But sheer numbers don't dictate whether something is good or bad- not at all. Remember- way back when, the norm, and indeed the majority, of plantation farmers owned slaves. It certaintly didn't make it right, because majorities are not given unlicensed mob rule in our country; they can only act so long as they do not infringe upon individual rights.

Many people in the country believe that the right to marriage is an individual right, and to deny it to them because of their sexual orientation is tantamount to discrimination. Hence the push for gay marriage. Moreover, you seem to think that the push for marriage is an attempt to 'normalize' homosexuality. I disagree; I think that gay people want to get married not so that they can emulate heterosexual relations and hence somehow pull one over on straight people, but because they want to get married- to share their lives and get the similar amenities that straight married couples can.

As for 'justifying homosexuality', whatever that means, well, I've never felt the need to justify it, basically because I don't think it's wrong. So I continue to tell people that, whether it looks like I'm 'justifying' or not.

Hope that helps!

Answer 2

Normal is a misnomer. There is no normal. I think the word that people should be using is common. No, homosexuality isn't common. However, in the USA common shouldn't matter in terms of rights or matters of law. Law abiding tax paying gay citizens should be treated the same as anyone else. In the case of marriage it so very prevalent for the most vocal detractors to say that gay men have the right to marry a woman same as any other man. That is disingenuous. Until such time as orientation is factored into the marriage equation then for homosexuals the scales will always be tipped against them. Justice is supposed to be blind in the USA, but obviously it is not.

Answer 3

It isn't "against the norm", it's just unusual. We as a culture are afraid of anything unusual-- body piercing, Goths, religions besides Christianity, etc. I'm not saying these things are wrong, but because they are not "mainstream" we are mistrusting, and so seek to make fun of, control, or outlaw them. Not all people share the same values about homosexuality, so why try to impose the values of one part of society upon the rest? While many people find it disgusting, sinful, etc, the rest of us just don't care. We aren't trying to normalize anything. It's already "normal". We just want everyone to be treated fairly and respected. It's not like they're murderous raving terrorists. They just want to be left alone, and to have the same relationship protection under law that every straight person takes for granted. Rights of inheritance, medical consent and visitation rights, parental rights, etc, are all things that hetero married couples have and that gay couples do not. It's not for the government to make laws on what is "moral" or not, but to protect the minorities from harrassment and discrimination.

Answer 4

There is no such thing as bisexual. You are just being greedy or you are a wishy washy person who follows the lesbian chic trend (many washed up middle aged women who cant get a man fool themselves the same way).

The push for homosexual marriage is the first step of many to expand the definition of marriage until it means nothing at all. After homosexual marriage is equal to traditional marriage, some people will push for marriage to multiple people, perhaps to animals or objects or even children. It will be a gradual process, but it will happen and we will be guilted into beLIEving that anyone deserves to marry whomever they want, until the only people not getting married are the only ones who should--heterosexuals who intend to raise children.

I am not a supposed "homophobe" (as if anyone is actually AFRAID of gay people). I love gay men (lesbians are ok, but I like gay men more), and I've been in their circles for over a decade now and know that they didnt really want to get married until it became big news, a gay pride issue. There is no reason other than legality for homosexuals to marry because they don't naturally have kids. This is a divide and conquer tactic. It all has to do with breaking down the family--the number one priority.

Answer 5

I don't have to justify my bisexuality and my relationship (4years) with my soul-mate, who happens to be female, to you or anyone else. Unfortunately you and your kind don't see it that way.

"Normal" is relative to your perspective and the society/culture you live in. In my community, men are submissive and Women dominant, so in my eyes, you, a vanilla person, are abnormal and your lifestyle is wrong, well maybe not "wrong" but definitely boring.

I am pushing for legal marriage because I am soon to be 54 and I was raised that when you loved someone to the very core of your being, you get married. I am Midwestern and middle class and marriage is what we do. I work hard, pay about 50% of my income in taxes, have never had more than a minor traffic ticket, am a good American mother and citizen, and I've voted in every election since I was 18, big or small. Even if I was in love with a man, I am well past menopause and have adult children, so I certainly wouldn't be reproducing. So you tell me, what right do you and your kind, have to order me to justify my desire to marry?

The simple fact is, that you don't.

Answer 6

Precisely why do you feel that "we" are trying to "justify" anything?
By the standard you suggest should all minorities just lay down and accept whatever scraps "the majority" deign to give them or should they stand up and fight for the rights that should be free for every single person to enjoy? The Constitution itself was written to protect the rights of the minority from the tyranny of the majority, not to allow the majority to run roughshod over those it deems as "lesser" simply because they don't follow what the majority considers the "norm".
I work just like you do.
I pay taxes.
I own physical assets(money, cars, house, ect...).
I also love.
If I should die, does my loved one, my chosen family, not deserve to inherit my physical assets? If I were incapacitated so as to not be able to make decisions on my treatment, should he not have the right to have a say in my treatment and speak for me when I cannot? We have built our lives together, how is what I have with him any less worthy of the protections, rights, and obligations provided by a marriage license simply because he has the same genitals as I do? Religious objections? Should the Hebrew and Muslims in this country have the right to ban all pork products because it is "unclean"? It's the same type issue.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

A young person does not develop "self acceptance" if society around them tells them that their "self" is bad and wrong!

How can you not see that?

And, as far as "normal"......that's pretty much in the eye of the beholder.

I don't think it's particularly "normal" for Jehova's Witnesses to come knocking at my door, but I still think they should be able to get married and raise families.

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Answer 9

"The norm" and being "Normal" are EXTREMELY subjective discriptions.

It's not harmful, it's not life threatening...there's nothing wrong with it.

It affects a minority of the population, but hey, so does left handed-ness and red hair. So what's you're point?

Answer 10

Times have changed so people really need to think about getting their thinking out of the 15th century.