How do Evolutionists explain…?

Question

How do Evolutionists explain the perfectly manufactured, balanced and concentric ringed spheroids found in 3-billion year rock strata when apes, did not appear until 50 million years ago according the Evolution/Uniformitarian Model?

These sophisticated stones that are billions of years old and rotate on their axes, captured the attention of Mr. John Hund of Petersburg fifteen years ago. Hund's previous journey to the Gestoptesfontein mine near Ottosdal in the Northern Province is where he found a stone just like the one he read about and saw in the Klerksdorp museum.

While playing with the stone on a very flat surface at a restaurant one day, Hund realized it was very well balanced. He took it to the California Space Institute at the University of California to have tests done to determine just how well balanced it was. "It turned out that the balance is so fine, it exceeded the limit of their measuring technology and these are the guys who make gyrocompasses for NASA. The riddle of the rotating stone spheres completely baffles even the NASA scientists.

”The stone is balanced to within one-hundred thousandths of an inch from absolute perfection,” explained Hund. Nobody knows what these stones are. One NASA scientist told Hund that they do not have the technology to create anything as finely balanced as this, yet they were created by someone approximately 2.8 billion years ago despite Modern Man did not appear until 100,000 years ago. Additionally, most shocking, he stated the only way that either nature or human technology could create something so finely balanced would be in zero gravity. Clearly, they are a product of a former global technoculture that once thrived upon the Earth, but was annihilated indicating that civilization is not linear as linear evolution teaches, but cyclic and recurrent meeting periodic cosmo-cataclysmic discontinuities as relayed by Plato, himself, and modern Free Thinkers like Cremo and Thompson, authors of “Forbidden Archaeology”.

Here is an extract of Mr. Hund's letter:

The existence of the sphere came to my attention ca 1977 while removing endangered rock engravings from the site where pyrophyllite or "wonderstone", as it is commonly known in the region, is mined on the farm Gestoptesfontein (meaning plugged fountain) near the little village of Ottosdal about 110 km from Klerksdorp in South Africa's Northwest Province.

I was intrigued by the form of the spheres, grooves around the middle and the fact that they are as hard as steel, while the material (pyrophyllite) in which they are found, is as soft as limestone with a count of only 3 on the Moh scale.
As you probably know, pyrophyllite (Al2 Si4 O10 (OH)2) is a secondary mineral and the deposits were formed by a process of sedimentation. On Gestoptesfontein volcanic activity was responsible for the forming of outcrops varying in height from about 10 to 100 meters. The smooth and relatively soft surface on the slopes was ideal for the prehistoric dwellers (San) to make their engravings of animal and abstract designs.

On Gestoptesfontein these outcrops were "swan" into huge pieces by means of twisted steel cables running zigzag on pulleys for several kilometers. These blocks were then sawn by the same method into more manageable pieces of about 500 x 500 mm. Occasionally the "sawing cable" got stuck on one of the metal spheres embedded in the pyrophyllite.

They vary in size from " 30 – 50 mm in diameter and have perfectly concentric grooves round the center as if they were molded. Inside the hard "shell" some have a spongy substance, while in others it resembles charcoal.

Inquiries were made from all over the world about this phenomenon. Countries include Canada, Switzerland, Denmark, Germany, England, USA, Norway, France and Botswana. Institutions such as the University of South Florida, Miles Price and Associates, the Society for Physic Advancement (S.A), Kokkolan Kaupunchi (Finland), Esotera (Germany) Geologisches Institut der Universiteit Pleicherwall (Germany), the Department of Philosophy UICC (Chicago), Danfoss (Denmark), Illustreret Videnskab (Coppenhagen), Louisiana Geological Survey, Gale Research Company (Michigan) and Search and Research Institute of Florida also made inquiries.

I wrote NASA HQ, to confirm or deny this in 2000, and never received a reply. Mr. Hund's letter was removed from the Klerksdorp Museum page, afterwards, when I checked back some time later, and the page re-designed.

Image: http://www.ufologie.net/htm/transvaalspheres.htm

FORBIDDEN... Open you eyes...the data is reliable and found OFF the internet as well in thoroughly documented research and various reputable publications. It is a legitimate question that needs to be probed, because it indicates a recurrent cosmic threat to our civilization and its pending finite extinction into oblivion.

MIKEINRI... Your proposal of the artifacts being deposited from a future time traveling expedition to the remote prehistoric past makes for interesting Sci-Fi, and is an intriguing yet fantastic possibility. I'll give you credit for a clever and witty imagination. However, your latter point, really, is comparing apples to oranges.

SPIRITGID... Boy, are you predisposed... I did not reference anything in the question or data regarding a “supernatural source” or God, and I am NOT a Creationist as you have erroneously presumed. You are very “reactionary” without rational cause.

If you would have opened your little eyes and actually absorbed what you read, the artificial nature of the spheres are the conclusion of NASA, a scientific agency. The spheres are NOT natural as you described because they have perfectly ENGRAVED multiple equatorial grooves that are perfectly parallel to each other and are perpendicular to the north and south polar centers.

You shouldn't be so close-minded, such an attitude stifles scientific progression.

H4RMONY... Are we to assume you're lazy, and that you haven't read a book in your life because they're too long?

CITRUS PUNCH... Tell that to the NASA researchers who have high meticulous research standards.

TERRACINE... You're going to have to do better than that... these are physical artifacts that can be held in the palm of your hand; we're not talking about a pixilated photo-shopped image of a painted cricket ball, which is far too large. These artifacts are less than ONE INCH IN DIAMETER. They were extrapolated by South African miners from solid rock strata dated to be 2.8 billion years, according to the Geological Column. Additionally, the spheres CANNOT be scratched NOT even by STEEL! The highly advance technology to produce such a material is extremely sophisticated. There is no hoax here as you have flagrantly dissuaded with an unconvincing attempt by your half-baked cricket ball rationale.

SEABREEZE... LOL!!! I can now hear the reverberatingly loud cracking fissures splitting and splintering in the crumbling foundations of Evolution!

OLDFOOTLO... And I fail to see why you brought your lustrous career at a warehouse in… Your theory would require even more “magic” if the spheres were formed in space float down to Earth... How did they penetrate the heat friction of the atmosphere without disitegrating?

JONMCN20... Who's really the "twit"? What a lame argument. The 9/11 Terrorist Attack and the Wedding of Prince Charles & Lady Diana ALSO appeared in a "sensationalist tabloid", Mr. Twit. Does it mean those events were not true and did not happen? Hardly. Get a clue, anything can be published in a tabloid. Foremost, I did not retrieve my data from such a source, though they have every right to publish on any topic, as I'm sure the more reputable Time Magazine and News Week did not get their data on the coverage of the Royal Wedding & 9/11 from tabloids. Just admit that you have absolutely NO logic explanation within the narrow and shortsighted constraints of the Evolution/Uniformitarian Model for the data I have presented, which satisfactorily and entirely nullifies the bogus Evolutionary Myth. Hence, the typical response of Evolutionists when back against a wall is to respond with nasty childish gibberish.

Answer 1

You are asking a hard question that they can not answer.

Since it can not be answered, it will be dismissed as a fake.

But, don't ask the evolutionist about their history of fakes or false assumptions:

Java man, Nebraska Man, and the others.

How many missing links were found using pig teeth?

Great question.

Answer 2

The fact that you do not know all the details of anything does not make it the works of a supernatural being. I'll bet you drive a car- but don't really know exactly how it works, so you must believe that god designed that too. If the bible had declared that the world was flat, creationists would be claiming that satellite photographs of a round earth were fakes. The incomplete understanding of evolution is certainly not evidence of creation, which has no proof at all.

The most efficient geometric shape is a perfect sphere. Anything in a flexible, flowable state, such as a liquid (or molten metal) naturally wants to assume that shape. The only reason more things aren't formed as round objects is that either they weren't in a position to allow free forming or gravity put them in contact with some other surface, distorting them.

Think about it. Lead shot (shotgun pellets) are perfect metal spheres, and they aren't machined or formed in molds- they are dropped as a molten spray inside a tall tower. In the free fall the droplets are unaffected by gravitational distortion- and so become round, balanced spheres. They also cool and harden while falling, and thus retain the shape when they land. It's not a miracle- it's physics, science and understanding.

Of course none of that is visible to a creationist. It's hard to see anything except the inside of your belly button from their position.

Answer 3

> "evolutionist believe that humans do not have a soul, and spirit and that we are completely accidentally formed by chance right?" No. [1] no field of science, evolution or otherwise, can comment on the existence of the soul. The soul, if it exists, is a non-physical phenomenon, and is therefore not open to investigation through science. [2] evolution is *not* "chance" or "accident", it is a process guided by natural selection, which is totally not random. > "how do they explain guilt? and saddness? and happiness?" Emotions are an important feature of our brains' function. We are social animals, so feelings of guilt, etc. are part of that socialisation (easily explained by evolution). And happiness/sadness/ etc. are also explainable as motivational drives for directing us towards (evolutionarily) advantageous behaviour. If we didn't feel happy or sad, there would be no reason to behave in specific ways. > "these are no functions of what we can see or explain." Sorry, but yes they are!

Answer 4

Have a look at the images on this link, and tell me the similarities between it and your image. The image you link to, if examined closely, reveals that the parallel lines around the circumference have regular spacing, like stitches. There is also some pixelation or blurring on the top of the sphere, where the emblem would be. What you have, is a cricket ball, painted, or otherwise computer-altered, or a cast of one. The older balls would have fewer lines of stitching, compared to the modern ball, pictured.

What you are perhaps trying to do, is demonstrate how hoaxes can influence beliefs, or you have been duped yourself. Keep believing if you want to, but there is your probable answer.

Answer 5

Maybe its source is of earth origin - maybe some human beings will be able to travel into the past with the use of some device and they left that object behind. Maybe its just part of their trash. More likely in could just be an oddity of nature.

Just remember just because a bunch of people get together somewhere for a summit - like this idiots in Tehran trying to deny that the Holocaust occurred - doesn't mean that adds anything to something.

Answer 6

As Mr. Hund's hoax, maybe? That is assuming that any of the information that you gave above is actually reliable, which I doubt. There's generally not much to be gained by getting all of your information off of internet sites like "ufologie.net."

Edit: No, I actually looked for any type of credible research on these speres, and could find none. Any mention I've seen is in the context of popular "mysteries/conspiracy/aliens built the pyramids" books, TV shows, or web sites. It's all heresay and conjecture. Very dubious sorts of information. You should be less credulous about extraordinary claims. Just because Charleton Heston narrates a TV show about something doesn't make it reliable information.

Answer 7

That is one heII of a long story but the fact any one can defend a hoax and confuse any expert with all that information.
I fail to see why you brought the apes in..
spit,, I used to work in a warehouse, trade school but with what I absorbed was simple.. the damm things formed in space in an asteroid like a snowflake and landed here in your mud bed, so much for magic.
I won't be back to read your rebuttal,, silly people waste their time.

Answer 8

Bubbles occur naturally in nature, and they're damn near perfectly round. Some astronomical bodies are an order of magnitude closer to being perfectly spherical than the rocks you describe.

Answer 9

A creationist that says the Evolutionist are wrong is a person that don't believe in the god that they proclaim exist. The Evolutionist that says the normal unfolding of circumstances means there is no GOD. IS as the bible says - A FOOL.

You don't have to believe, but if you think that you know all of the answers, YOU ARE A FOOL. Too bad most of the Creationists, close their eyes and minds to greater understanding. GOD wants us to understand, so we must all seek answers at all time.

Answer 10

Once again... newspaper articles are not scientific evidence. Take an evolutionary biology course. Also perhaps a chemistry course, an introductory hominid fossils (anthropology) course, a philosophy of science course.... and then come back and discuss evolutionary theory.

Answer 11

Evolutionists cannot explain every imaginary question from non-scientist public. No need...

Let's see, if creationists can explain and PROVE anything they say... Let's start with the god...