Can anyone tell me of a liberal program that has actually worked?

Question

Right now I am looking up rural electrification.

Rural electrification was a success and I am really glad to hear there was one. Social Security is a failure and to try and take credit for National Parks and the Public Library is a sham.

Child Labor Laws have worked if you consider ensuring that most minors can not get a job these days because employers don't want to risk the fines. They effectively legislated minors out of the work force. Labor Unions, Is that why so many manufacturing jobs have been lost to over seas competition?

Magna Carta, The Bill of Rights and The Declaration of Indepence ok but any lately. Incidently Liberals seem to think the Bill of Rights is a failure when it comes to the right to bear arms. And the totally ignore Are endowed by thier creator with certain... LIFE! Or is endowed by their creator once the emerge from the womb?

XXLBoxer Considering it is my money to begin with why wouldn't I be. I would like it all back now with interest and they can stop taking out of my paycheck

Darn it John D Ay I was really excited when I had heard that one worked. Spoil Sport! LOL

Actually there was one the worked extremely well and I am truly surprised that no one has mentioned it yet.

Conservative Ideas the worked

The state of Vermont's right to carry laws
In Vermont you can wear on gun on your hip if you want to and they have the lowest crime rate in the country!

Corporal Punishment in Public Schools
Discipline was maintained in the class rooms and you never heard about school shootings.

Bankrupting the Soviet Union and ending the cold war.

Reaganomics

D-Day

The Liberal Program that actually worked was the use of the interstate commerce clause in the constitution to end segragation in businesses. Of course it did not require a government beauracracy or a punitive tax on the rich to work and it actually helped businesses be increasing sales. Perhaps this is why so few liberals actually thought of it. Or maybe they are still shocked that it worked.

Answer 1

Rural electrification was pretty darn successful. Look it up.

Answer 2

Whether a program will work or not depends mainly on whether its goals are possible to achieve. When the idea is to build infrastructure or to provide a service, the success of the program depends only on the provision of the energy, the material resources, and the skills necessary to do the building or the providing.

Note that whether the job is done with fairness (the people who pay get the benefits) is a separate question.

But when the idea is to change the nature of people or the laws of the natural world, the program cannot possibly succeed. For example, social welfare can feed the poor as long as the non-poor can be forced to pay taxes for that purpose. But in many cases, the poor are poor because they were born lacking in some hereditary quality necessary to success in a competitive world. Some have low intelligence, for example. Social welfare will never end poverty because it will never cure the kind of human defectiveness that causes poverty.

Liberals always look for the quick-fix. It makes them popular with a certain constituancy. They play their quick-fix programs into humanitarian causes. And, if a quick-fix is all you need, then a liberal program might actually work. But if the quick-fix must be repeated, again and again, always at about the same cost level to the taxpayer, with no end in sight, ever, then although the fixes might work in each instance, they aren't worth what they cost as a continuing drain on the nation's resources.

Answer 3

Your question is kind of flawed.

Liberal really means "relating to free" or "free to change" and it has nothing to do with the political ideology of Liberals in the United States. For example, Tony Blair is a Liberal in the UK because the UK has a different ideology of "liberalism" (They that relate to free). Liberals in the United States bear more resemblance to historical fascists than anything relating to freedom.

If I may be allowed to rephrase your question to:
"Can anyone tell me of a Socialist program that has actually worked in the United States?"

I have to say no. The socialist programs in the United States such as Social Security and Medicare are deeply flawed and moving into bankruptcy. You can think of them kind of like the Titanic, looks great on the first voyage from Ireland to England and it looked great for the first few miles (or years) of a very long journey, but during the voyage it sank.

Now a lot of people have a lot of theories about why the ship sank and some of those theories are pretty compelling, but no one really knows. The only thing they can be sure of is that people had become so dependent on the ship that they didn't have lifeboats ready when the ship sank.

This is not to say that socialist programs cannot work, just that they have not worked. Saying SSI or whatever program worked really well until it sank is kind of like saying the Titanic is a great ship and we should do everything we can to reproduce exactly the same thing, over and over again.

Why haven't socialist programs worked? Because people involved in them refuse to admit the ship could sink or is sinking until the ship is at the bottom of the ocean and everyone is dead, then they blame it on someone else instead of learning from their own mistakes.

Since people refuse to learn from their mistakes they continue building the same Titanic over and over again.

Now, if people governing these programs (spell that bureaucrats) learned from their mistakes socialist programs might work.

In order to learn you need accurate data. Political propaganda is more predominate than actual data so decisions are made from lessons learned from political propaganda instead of actual data.

This means that fantasy "repairs" are created from fantasy data so the repairs never work and the programs never work.

You can think of the reasons for failure in that "learning" from propaganda is like putting schizophrenics (people unable to determine fantasy from reality) in charge of government programs.

"Liberals" in the United States can be more closely compared to schizophrenics than managers, which is why socialist programs fail.

By the way, Rural Electrification is a self supporting capitalistic investment made by the government and not a government funded socialist program which is why, inspite of uneducated complaints that the program was socialist, it was allowed in the United States and it succeeded.

Answer 4

When your ideals are conservative or liberal there is nothing anyone can say to change that. We're all different and that's a good thing....it keeps us on our toes and keeps our country from going too far one way or the other.

So this question is just posturing.

Answer 5

I'll bet the minute you turn 65 you'll be in line, with your conservative hand out, at your local Social Security office, which the Republicans have fought tooth and nail to do away with.

Social Security and the 40 hour work week are fine Liberal programs that have withstood the test of time.

If it was up to conservatives you'd still be working 60 hour work weeks , in sweat shops, for 25 cents an hour.

Oh, let's not forget that Liberals did away with the child labor that conservatives thought was so peachy keen.

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Answer 6

Child-labor laws, and safety in factories.
Unions.
Magna Carta.
Many would say the Bill of RIghts and Declaration of Independence.
Opposition to Nazism, lynching, and other forms of hate (civil rights).
*** Just added *** The New Deal
Budget and job creation under Clinton.
Now, can you tell me a conservative program that has worked, while I relish that my kids don't work 18-hour days getting their hands cut off in factories under Nazi rule? *** Just added *** So, still unable to name a conservative program that worked?

Answer 7

Social Security, Public Library, National Parks

Answer 8

Do you mean like the "no child left behind" plan, or is it because President Bush put that plan forward it's not liberal? It's a waste of money and effort and only manipulates the school system, which has become about earning dollars from the federal government instead of learning for the students.

Answer 9

Could you possibly reword this question to make at just a teeny tiny bit clearer what you have already decided is the correct answer?

Answer 10

The Seinfeld show did alright.