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I was born into a Christian home,

and went to church since i could remember...

After learning hearing about gays..lesbians at about 12years..i found out that I WAS one..

then I found that out Gay people, will not inherit the kingdom of heaven and go to hell.

I have had this gay orientation ever since i could remember..I just felt attracted to guys. But the thing is, i feel attracted to males, but WISH NOT TO!! i have the gay orientation but NONE desire what so ever to marry a gay or date another GUY. because it is quite a serious SIN. i was want to be normal and feel attracted to girls. (adam and eve not steve)

I discovered masturbation at a very very young age..say...6? and learned that it is condemned..now I am trying my hardest to stop.

Is there any hope of change? or is Christ wiling to grant me eternal life with him despite my orientation?

I have been praying for a orientation change lately, has anyone experience with stuff like this?

Peace

2007-01-27 17:05:36 · 13 answers · asked by castaway1029384 1 in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

Does anyone have to know about my orientation? I havnt told anyone about it..and i feel quite heavy burdened with it.

I dont know who to tell, my family have always looked down upon homosexuals with a face...

Also, why does the church condemn same sex couples getting married?

Would I be unfaithful and a bad husband if i married a woman without her knowing my orientation?

I really want to have children someday! and live with my family in harmony

2007-01-27 18:18:46 · update #1

13 answers

Hon you can't change your sexual orientation. And if God wanted your orientation to change he would have already granted your prayers, right? He would have given you some sort of sign, some sort of way out of it. But guess what? He's not going to send you any hint on how to change, because what you feel is not a sin. You don't need to change that part of you.

Masturbation was considered a sin during biblical times because it was spilling your seed without giving it a chance to create a baby. Well that was important back in the day because infant mortality was so high and people were concerned about increasing the population. We don't have a lack of population problem anymore. So that rule is outdated! Now we have too many people on the planet. So masturbate all you want. It's normal, and it's healthy.

Gay people have just as much chance of inheriting the kingdom of heaven as straight people do. Being gay is not a sin. Jesus loved everyone, gay people included. Did you know that Jesus healed the gay servant of a Roman soldier? Back in the day many men had a special male member of their household that they had sex with. This is the person the soldier asked Jesus to heal from illness. Jesus healed him with no questions asked, and in the process he didn't turn the servant straight. So obviously Jesus did not feel that being gay was an illness otherwise he would have healed that, too.

The Bible has been translated many times from many different languages by many different men. During that time a lot of things got translated incorrectly. It is these incorrect translations that current branches of Christianity base their beliefs about homosexuality on.

You are not going to hell for being gay. You are not going to hell for masturbating. These are stories created by people who think that they can speak for God better than God can speak for Himself.

God loves you just the way you are. God accepts you just the way you are. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

(edit to respond to details)
No one has to know anything you don't want them to know. If you're not comfortable with people knowing certain things you just don't tell them. I think that whatever you decide it would make more sense for you to figure out how you feel about yourself before you make a decision about what you want to say to your parents. I would suggest finding a gay-friendly Christian denomination and talking with the priest or pastor or whoever. They can help you decide what steps you want to take next.

It would be horribly dishonest of you to get married to a woman if you have no feelings for women. Marriage is a very special bond and to enter into the bond knowing that you do not feel tied to the woman in that way is cruel. I understand the desire for a family and children. However, you do not need to have a traditional marriage to have children. There are so many different ways to create a family nowadays. If you make the decision to not marry a woman that does not mean that you will never have a family of your own.

Not all Christian churches condemn gay marriage. There are many Christian churches that will perform same-sex marriage ceremonies. It is just SOME Christian denominations that will not accept same-sex couples.

This is a very confusing time for you and I can relate. I really encourage you to find the religious leader of a gay-friendly Christian denomination to talk this stuff out with. It sounds like your religion is very important in your life so speaking with someone who also believes in God and Jesus would probably be very helpful for you in figuring out how to reconcile your faith and your orientation.

2007-01-27 18:05:56 · answer #1 · answered by Jen 4 · 2 0

You really did not say if you was attracted to the same sex. Some people have a gender nonconformity and think they are gay. Do you have characteristics that seem to belong to the opposite gender? It may be some children are born with a predisposition to have a gender nonconformity, while some children learn charateristics that make them have a gender nonconformity. There are children with gender nonconformity that do not become homosexual. I think homosexual as well as hetrosexual is constructed. The predisposition to either is the start. Ideas , innoscence all can be a predisposition.
The Formula For Constructing A Homosexual
This formula can be illustrated in this way:
A Predisposition Toward Homosexuality Plus That First
Homosexual Experience Multiplied By Pleasurable and Positive
Homosexual Thoughts To Which Is Added More Homosexual
Experiences Multiplied By More Pleasurable Thoughts constructs homosexuality.

The Formula For Constructing A Hetrosexual
This formula can be illustrated in this way:
A Predisposition Toward Hetrosexuality Plus That First
Hetrosexual Experience Multiplied By Pleasurable and Positive
Hetrosexual Thoughts To Which Is Added More Hetrosexual
Experiences Multiplied By More Pleasurable Thoughts
Constructs a Hetrosexual.

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor HOMOSEXUALS, nor SODOMITES, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Co 6:9-10)
Notice, as we have seen earlier, that Paul includes homosexuality as conduct that can keep one out of the kingdom of God. But then Paul says something that should give great hope to those who are willing to believe that it IS possible to overcome homosexuality...
"AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Co 6:11)

Get Babtized, claim Jesus christ as your saviour, and let him do his works, it could take a few years, but keep praying. I am 45, and gay, but God has opened my eyes and taught me a person is not born this way, i used to believe i was, then I learned about Gender nonconformity, and how it was a predisposition to my becoming gay. I was never diagnoised or had any treatment, it has taken me a lot of years to get were i am, and it remains to be seen if i will change my sexual orintation. Yet I do not practice homosexuality at this time, well the fantasy thing I need to work on, lol. i pray I will have enough years to change, lol and that is were I am at. Good Luck.

It also is true that homosexuality was not in the original text, and someone translated a word not known by the theoligions into homosexualit in the 1500 or it may have been in the 1800, not sure. But I think it evident that gods plan was to be hetrosexual, but there will always be homosexuals as well, and often done in innoscence.

2007-01-28 01:44:50 · answer #2 · answered by ishelp4 3 · 0 1

I agree with gregory_s, you were not taught properly.

Being straight is not a prerequisite to being saved, trust ing God through Jesus Christ is the prerequisite to being saved.

If you are down on yourself and thinking that being Gay is a sin, that's actually a good thing. You don't have far to look to see that you need Christ.

So what is your spiritual walk like? Are you trying to get closer to God, and to know more than you ever had about Him?

I would be less concerned about being Gay, as I would be about being right with God - meaning ; What am I trusting Him for? There are many promises from God in the Bible. Which is the one that you are saying before you even get out of bed?

As thy day, so shall thy strength be?

Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart?

Do those promises from God seem familliar? Notice how the focus that I am writing about is not on you, but rather on Him?

Look to Him! He knows that you have desires, and He also knows that you are in conflict with it. Trust Him and He said that you will live forever with Him!

God forgives me, why can't he also forgive you? Don't let the devil beat you out of operation. Trust God and you will have power over anything that comes your way.

Trust Him! ( ;

2007-01-27 19:14:07 · answer #3 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 0 0

I think you need to pray, pray, pray or pray and fast for these feelings of your sexual preference to be gone, dont claim them, the devil is a liar. You are so smart not to have acted upon these feelings, give them back to the one they belong with, and pray for God to give you a release from what you have already claimed as your own.
for the subject of masturbation, there is not anything said in the Bible about maturbating being a sin.. What makes it a sin is the lustful thoughts one creates in order to masturbate, so therefore if you are masturbating without sinful thoughts then you are not sinning. I have listed a website that goes into great detail about masturbating and its very much worth the read.
Also dont be so hard on yourself, you are human and God is very much aware of this. God is a forgiving God, a loving God and He is there to walk you through each step of your life.. Trust Him and forget the lies that satan is telling you!! I will be praying for you, keep your head up. Have you tried Pastoral counseling? I would definately try finding someone to talk too although I wouldn't go to my current pastor for this but there should be someone in your area that can help..

2007-01-27 18:14:20 · answer #4 · answered by kadensmom99 2 · 0 1

You can't change your orientation, and YOU DON'T HAVE TO! God loves you just the way you are. Most scholars now agree that inacurate interpretations of the Bible have lead to the wrong ideas about homosexuality- the old testiment is irrelevant because of Christ's death (we don't stone women for making clothing out of two kinds of fabric, and we don't kill people who lend money for profit, aka banks), and the new testiment probably was not actually talking about homosexuality as much as they were talking about being a rapist or a pedophile. your parents may not be ready to hear this, but you are okay!
as for your masterbation, you may have a sexual addiction. there are websites that you can go to for support, but a little bit of masterbation every once in a while is okay (even healthy!)
good luck figuring things out!

2007-01-27 18:01:34 · answer #5 · answered by Josh T 2 · 2 0

"then I found that out Gay people, will not inherit the kingdom of heaven and go to hell."

You've been given some typically Christian falsehoods regarding this statement. I'm not going to depend on some guy from biblical times to say whether or not I'm going to heaven. I know myself, and I am inherently a good person, and gay. You bet your sweet a-ss I'm going to heaven. Ditch Christianity and you'll hopefully find a way to accept yourself and love yourself exactly the way you are.

2007-01-27 18:12:39 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Wow... I feel for you because I experience EXACTLY what you have been through. I am going to pray for you brother, right now.


Dear Heavenly Father,
please bless my brother here that he will understand that masturbation is not a sin. Show him your love and with that comes true enlightenment for him. Change him into the person you want to him to be and that You have a plan for him. Remove his unnatural desires for men so he can come and inherit the Kingdom of God.

In Jesus's name,
Amen

There has been reports of people changing their sexual orientation. Talk to a concellor and to your priest. They will help you. Talk to God. If you will it, it will happen. I should know. I have been attracted to people of my sex since 13. It started out as admiration but it blossomed into something else. I was horrified and I started to deny to myself that I am gay. This worsens the condition and I started to masturbate with these guys in mind. I also started to have erotic dreams with them in mind. I was so depressed that I can't go to heaven that I started to pray to God to change me... and he did. You must realise that these kind of things cannot happen overnight. I am still struggling with my sexual identity but I daresay now that I am feeling much better and I now have a genuine interest in girls. My interest in boys have dwindled since I prayed to God and I'm sure that one day, it would be completely erased. Believe me, sexual orientation CAN be changed if you will it! :)

I really hate the people who told you that masturbation is a sin. IT"S NOT!!! Let me clear this up once and for all... it's not! 98 percent of the whole world does it and the 2 percent is mostly made of eunuches, retards and other disabled people. In fact, A verse from the Bible actually encourages the act. Email me... I'll try to find it out for you. If you are STILL not convinced, let's look at it from a psychological and a more logical viewpoint. Sigmund Freud has said that if you do not express your sexual urges, meaning masturbate, you WILL become sexually-repressed and this may lead to rape, murder and other hedonistic pleasures. I know you probably have this guilty feeling after the act but IT'S ok! I get it, people get this feelings so you're in great company. It's just a reflex action due to the influx of hormones and chemicals in your body. It's not that God is disapproving of your act.
If you want to continue this conversation to me,please email me at nikkiwebsterrulz@hotmail.com. I feel like you are just like me, in fact exactly like me cause I hated that I masturbate too. I just hate it but I realise that it is normal to perform this act and it's a form of self-love as well. Please, I feel like there's a connection between us, so please stay in touch.


God bless,
Phil.

P.S. I am shocked when people say that they are Christians and gays. I don't think God approves of gays because it goes against his will. He created you a man and that he how you should become! Gays are unnatural and God I don't think approves of homosexuality.

2007-01-29 13:55:33 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

LET ME MAKE ONE THING VERY VERY CLEAR if you say that you are a CHRISTIAN and you are gay than you are calling GOD a liar i want to do this and that translates one thing to anyone you have not repentant of the sins you are doing and i am saying this in love for a brother that cant make up his mind simple word CHOOSE!!!! you can not serve GOD and man at the same time if you want to serve GOD than you must walk away from your desires though i do have a loving suggestion for you there is a BIBLE STUDY COURSE CALLED THE WALK OF REPENTANCE I REALLY KNOW THIS WILL HELP YOU OUT in your struggle against sexual per visions it takes 33 weeks to complete but i know bewound a shadow of a doubt it will help you i want the best for you and for you to make the best decision for your life one leads to life the other to death CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU SERVE

2007-01-27 18:38:32 · answer #8 · answered by THE WAR WRENCH 4 · 0 2

You can't change your sexual orientation. You can pretend --get married---end up hurting your wife and kids...but why? Get out there and enjoy your life....Does your god want you to suffer that much...I can't believe in a god that considers happiness a sin.

2007-01-27 17:48:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Answering your Q. "Would I be unfaithful and a bad husband if i married a woman without her knowing my orientation?"

You would f-ucking up alot of people's lives. Yours, your wife's and future kids.

2007-01-27 22:36:12 · answer #10 · answered by Kedar 7 · 0 0

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