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Read the reasons why we seperated from Great Britian
http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html
and you tell me why we teach in schools that it was taxation without representation (which is reason 17). i think they put the reasons they were breaking off from King george in order.Or do you not agree?

2007-01-27 16:26:23 · 9 answers · asked by ALunaticFriend 5 in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

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I'm all for good knowledge of history (as long as teaching and testing by names and dates is classed as torture with felony penalties), but you've got a chicken/egg problem here:  parents elect school boards, and they just don't care about history (or science, for that matter).  This means the school boards will have its textbooks selected by whoever cares about the issues, and that will be the ideologues.

The leftist ideologues don't want anyone to know that the country broke away because of violations of personal liberties - makes folks too likely to pick up guns, or at least start making scary noises about it.

The rightist ideologues don't want anyone to know about the violations of religious liberty - it makes the "Christian nation" stuff look like a repeat of the Church of England oppression, with England crossed out and replaced with America.  Can't have their good little fundamentalists knowing that the First Amendment's establishment clause is THEIR protection against government abuse too, can they?

Nope, all kinds of powerful and interested people don't want the Declaration, or the Constitution, or Shays' Rebellion, or anything else taught fully and accurately to the rabble.  Might make the little people get uppity, y'know.

2007-01-27 16:45:13 · answer #1 · answered by Engineer-Poet 7 · 1 2

I agree that these were all of the reasons in tact for why we rebelled against King George and Great Britain. And no I do not agree that this should be abolished or aborted and or defiled in anyway ever. I do believe they are already putting together a temporary new statute of laws which is wrong as well and this is directly connected to the Constitutional laws, regarding our freedom issues here in the States, they propose to abide by the existing ones but to amend them as well and use loop holes with their amendments to eventually outlaw most of our constitutional rights. In other words if we get into habit or harness as that cowboy would like we will get used to those ways and forget about the others allowing them to abolish the others. In the event that anymore altering is done it will launce a civil war? Just look at all the fighting on this site? And the people at each others throats for ridiculous reasons, and completely ignorant ones as ell are party to the reasons of what ever Shadow Governments do exist inside our government these ignorant ones will be the reason that we end up in a civil war playing into the hands of whoever wants to destroy and then rebuild in their fashion. I don't believe in Liberals, right, left, communism, fascist, are individually responsible I think they are all in bed together in one big group and yet they all want control over one another, but they are playing monopoly, with our lives? They need to be reminded We Are the People and we are the United States of America and we are the majority and we want Freedom and not for them to rule without our votes? Or we can revolt? Not that I want that nor am I promoting that I just have a crystal ball? ha ha ha

2007-01-27 16:49:51 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well, the document does a fine job of speaking for itself and, as you point out, the tax thing is number 17. It was an important one, as the prior few decades of history, stamp tax and all, laid out, but perhaps not the only one.

What I don't get is your characterization of the taxation without representation chestnut as some kind of liberal lie. Why the bitterness? It was always my impression that "taxation without representation" was a simplification, partly shorthand to explain the whole thing to 8-year-olds, partly pertly stated national myth, to be lined up on July 4 like "I cannot tell a lie," "the whites of their eyes," "two if by sea" and "A republic, madam, if we can keep it." I also thought that, like these other old standards, that it long predated our current headbutting between Clinton and Bush supporters. Wouldn't a dad in 1893 have told his pesky youngster, "well, son, the king said we had to pay these taxes, but we didn't get to send anyone blah blah blah..."?

Not sure what the issue is here. What are we missing?

2007-01-27 16:41:40 · answer #3 · answered by hadrian2 2 · 4 1

We teach a lot of fairy tales to our children.

Our history in the USA is taught as if the world centered around the US, and England before the US and all else is irrelevant. That is BS.

I applaud you looking at the source documents in a deeper way and asking the hard questions.

We teach about separation of church and state too as if it is a foundation of our country. It is clearly just a convenient way of documenting that we are not a religion based government. It does not exclude God from our thinking in government. Clearly the words used by the forefathers do not say ignor God.

2007-01-27 16:39:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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2016-11-01 11:35:55 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

How can you say that it is "liberals" that teach that? My history teacher was ultra-conservative and that was the reason he cited more than any other. So don't me hand that crap about liberals.

2007-01-27 16:42:30 · answer #6 · answered by darkemoregan 4 · 5 0

I think that they were talking about suffering being governed, and taxed, by a government where they had no voice.

2007-01-27 16:32:42 · answer #7 · answered by DAR 7 · 2 0

then go head and leave

2007-01-27 17:06:13 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Your question is specious.

2007-01-27 18:26:25 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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