when they were first pushed for 'rights', because 'what consenting adults do in the privacy of thier own bedroom is no one else's business'. But then you want public approval and want to ban dispproval even in private situations? How has the tide turned?
2007-01-26 13:51:10 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Yes, for the BETTERMENT OF ALL MANKIND! Get used to it.
2007-01-26 13:58:14 · answer #1 · answered by DEATH 7 · 10⤊ 2⤋
First of all you need to understand what a right is in the first place. The constitution defines a right as "inalienable rights". They are total and absolute, they are not given to you by another person, nor can they be taken away (only infringed), they can not be transfered, and they are not shared by a community. Your rights are not limited by what government defines as a right.
A right is derived from property. You have a right to control your property. You do not have a right to control or take property of others.
You own your life. You are in control of what you do with it. You do not have a right to control or take another persons life. Thus they have no right to control or take yours. So "gay" rights are irreverent. You either have a right to control your life or you do not. You clearly have every right to be gay.
I really hate it when people say "gay rights" they cheapen what rights are.
Please check out Michael Badnarik's Constitution Class, http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik as he goes into more detail than I can.
Edit: I might add, Seeking laws to "allow" gay behavior is a bad idea. Since government can't provide you a right all they can do it give you permission to be gay. For example, if they make it legal, they will "allow" a gay marriage in the form of a permit or license. The gay community needs to tell the government that they do not possess the authority to tell two consenting adults who they may marry. Indeed to win, you will need to get rid of heterosexual marriage licenses. The government has no business issuing them at all.
2007-01-26 22:11:15 · answer #2 · answered by k X 2 · 3⤊ 1⤋
You are right that 'what consenting adults do in the privacy of thier own bedroom is no one else's business'
So why is it that some gay people can be fired from their jobs for no other reason than being gay? This is not asking for approval, it is only asking to not be treated differently.
So why is it that gay people can be denied an apartment lease or a home mortgage for no other reason than being gay? This is not asking for approval, it is only asking to not be treated differently.
So why is it that gay couples cannot file joint tax returns, and usually pay higher taxes than they would if they were able to marry? This is not asking for approval, it is only asking to not be treated differently.
Why is it that if a gay couple is fortunate enough to have an employer to offer health benefits to a partner, the partners benefits are taxed since the partner is not a family member? This is not asking for approval, it is only asking to not be treated differently.
Why is it that if two gay people are in a committed relationship and one becomes ill, the other partner can be denied hospital visitation since they are not related? This is not asking for approval, it is only asking to not be treated differently.
Why is it that if a gay partner dies, the surviving partner can inherit their estate but are taxed at the highest rate since they are not a spouse (and oftentimes lose their home due to the tax burden)? This is not asking for approval, it is only asking to not be treated differently.
Why is it that if a gay partner dies the surviving partner cannot receive pension or social security benefits, and if the surviving partner inherits a retirement plan it is also taxed because the surviving partner is not related? This is not asking for approval, it is only asking to not be treated differently.
The reason that gay people still push for 'rights' is because we still have very few of them compared to straight people.
2007-01-26 22:10:31 · answer #3 · answered by χριστοφορος ▽ 7 · 7⤊ 1⤋
What I do in my bedroom is none of your business. You're right on there.
Who I choose to partner up with is also none of your business. Which means that when I buy insurance, I should be legally guaranteed to receive the same rates as my married straight male counterpart. I should also be able to cover my partner on my health insurance plan. Etcetera.
And the reason disapproval needs to be discouraged (not banned) "even in private situations" is because it's ignorant and destructive. And some people--not you, of course--are so committed to their own ignorance that it really is a battle to educate them.
2007-01-26 23:53:40 · answer #4 · answered by Patrick C 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes, I support Gay Rights. I have a great amount of friends that are both gay and Lesbian. I don't believe we have the right to tell someone how to live their lives or with whom to live their lives.
You may notice that even in Same Sex relationships, one person will assume the position of a male and the other partner is the female. Even if both appear to the public eye as "normal" men and women.
I am transgendered a Female to Male. I personally prefer women and have always seen myself as a male. Even as a young child. Most of the world may see me as a lesbian. That will not be the case once I complete my transition. You wouldn't know me (Trans) from a biological male. In which case I will be married to my current partner and seen as a straight male.
How funny these things can get. Instead of confusing everyone.
We should educate ourselves and our people on these issues. Make Same Sex Marriage Legal and Make it mandatory to treat Gender Indenity Disorder and so on with your insurance. Once those small factors are in places it gives the LGBT community an equal playing field in our society. Then it won't matter. In fact a person's sexual orientation shouldn't matter anyway.
Who cares if two men or women share a bed. If you've ever been part of a threesome that has some same sexness to it.
2007-01-26 22:09:52 · answer #5 · answered by Crisodwolf 2 · 3⤊ 2⤋
No "Tide" has turned!
I think it's wrong for everyone to vote for LGBT issues... We will never "win" the approval of heterosexuals enough to get the change in laws we need. There's got to be another way.
That why I really don't care about political stuff. If I'm in love with someone enough to marry them, I will do it. I will create what I want without the approval of anyone, or law. I'm gonna do what I want despite the law.
2007-01-26 22:47:59 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Of course I support Gay rights. Gays and lesbians are taxpayers too and should be entitled to any legal benefits that a heterosexual person is entitled to.
Now, I am agnostic, but I don't believe that the government can force a church to marry gays. You have that separation of church and state thing going on there. However, I think that all judges that have taken an oath of state should be required to marry same sex couples.
2007-01-26 22:12:32 · answer #7 · answered by Rosebee 4 · 5⤊ 1⤋
As a confirmed bisexual, I should think that gays should be given every right that the normal humans have, although that might be a bit much for our culture to handle. Deportation is out of the question, but I believe if we can gather them together and isolate them, where they can be free to roam in whatever conditions they would normally prefer, I should think everyone would be happy.
I'm sorry, I think terribly evil things from time to time.
2007-01-26 22:02:25 · answer #8 · answered by talcos_s 1 · 0⤊ 2⤋
jesus people just need to go get bent...well not all of them..not all of them are ignorant and hold a holier than though attitude, just because jesus said "go and preach the good news to world" does not mean " shove my name in peopls facs and twist my teaching for your greater good in the sake of my name.
Heres what get me....They sit there and lobby and throw fits when gay rights etc are the issue.
I dont see them throwing a fit and lobbying for anything that promotes premartial sex. or for any other small issues that might be considered a "sin."
as far as im concerned a sin is a sin is a sin. and if you believe thats a sin...then thats your opinion..no sin is greater than another in the eyes of the lord. so once again...christian a holes can just drop the soap.
hypocrites.
2007-01-26 22:01:25 · answer #9 · answered by Sheriff of R&S 4 · 5⤊ 2⤋
I absolutely support gay rights. If there are no gay rights then we would be excluding half of the world. I dont understand why some people trip on what gays do but they are not worried about bigger issues like war and child abuse or poverty. No matter what anyone says you can not stop homosexuality. Its normal 4 us! Its who we are!
2007-01-26 22:07:33 · answer #10 · answered by Stacie S 1 · 6⤊ 1⤋
No, public approval isn't necessary, only the same rights as straight people.
2007-01-26 22:54:42 · answer #11 · answered by Radagast97 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋