Can we ever end the military industrial complex?

Question

It has nothing to do with party lines. Look at hhistory for proof

Answer 1

Marcus's answer is short, but he is absolutely correct!! And of course so are you!!!

It is far more complicated, and far more dangerous than what most people realize. I was sent this article which I think everyone who wants to learn the truth, should read an explore. I am also posting this list of priorities. I am not going to say who wrote it, because I want it to stand on its own merits. I think it is very important that everyone do their own extensive research, though, because these are dangerous times, and anyone who thinks they know everything there is to know about anything is a fool.

This is the article, but the links that the original article will unfortunately not work, on this posting.

Message from Michael - Thur - Jan 25, 2007

***Earth PROBLEM verus human SOLUTION
***Satire
***THE SECRET--THERE is NOTHING you cannot BE, DO Or HAVE
Energy flows where attention goes....

1) Earth PROBLEM versus human SOLUTION
2) Satire
3) Healing Laughter
4) THINK Here....


1) EARTH PROBLEM versus human SOLUTION

***Al Gore--has it wrong... WOWEE! This lady knows...a focus on a problem always--by Law, amplifies the problem--while a focus on the solution...solves all problems swiftly....

THE SOURCE OF HOPELESSNESS: A REVIEW OF 'AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH'

[Rachel's introduction: "My nickname for our current economic system is 'The Tapeworm.' ...Believing that our solutions for addressing global warming lie within the system defined by the Tapeworm goes hand in hand with obtaining our information from media companies controlled by the Tapeworm, and having to choose from among leaders annointed by the Tapeworm, such as Al Gore. This belief is, in fact, the source of our hopelessness."]

By Catherine Austin Fitts, Solari Inc.

[Catherine Austin Fitts served as Assistant Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing Commissioner at HUD in the first Bush Administration; she previously served as Managing Director and Member of the Board of Directors of the Wall Street investment bank, Dillon, Read & Co., Inc.]

The day after 9-11, a person whom I respect and care about a great deal said to me, "George Bush was anointed by God for a time such as this." He then asked me what I thought. I said that I thought that the Bush family was annointed by financial fraud, narcotics trafficking, and pedophilia. Stunned, he said, "If that is true, then it's hopeless." I replied that things were far from hopeless, but that for me solutions started with faith in a divine intelligence rather than affirming a dependent relationship with organized crime.

Last week I had dinner with a wonderful couple -- activists in the San Francisco Bay Area-- and the woman told me how wonderful she thought Al Gore's documentary An Inconvenient Truth was. She then asked for my opinion. When I gave it, she said, "If that is true, then it's hopeless." We then proceeded to have a rich conversation about why folks who used to call themselves "liberal" or progressive are in the same trap as folks who used to call themselves "conservative"

In order to respond to the problem of global warming, it is necessary to look at the ways that we as citizens support criminal activity by our government and how we as consumers, depositors and investors support the private banking, corporate and investment interests that run our government in this manner. This is easier said than done. When we 'get it' -- i.e., that we have to withdraw from a co-dependent relationship with organized crime in order to save and rebuild our world -- we can find ourselves struggling to envision the system-wide actions that are needed and feeling overwhelmed by the task of determining how to go about them personally and in collaboration with others.

My nickname for our current economic system is "The Tapeworm." For decades I have listened to Americans from all walks of life insist that we must find solutions within the system -- i.e. within the socially acceptable boundaries laid down by the Tapeworm. Believing that our solutions for addressing global warming lie within the system defined by the Tapeworm goes hand in hand with obtaining our media from companies controlled by the Tapeworm, and having to choose from among leaders anointed by the Tapeworm, such as Al Gore. This belief is, in fact, the source of our hopelessness.

George Orwell once said that omission is the greatest form of lie. Gore's omissions in An Inconvenient Truth are so extraordinary that it is hard to know where to start.

Watching An Inconvenient Truth is more useful for understanding how propaganda is made and used than for understanding the risks of global warming (I am not qualified to judge the scientific evidence here -- I am assuming that Gore's presentation on global warming is sound).

The fundamental lie that Al Gore is telling comes from defining our problem as environmental -- in this case global warming, whereas our environmental problems -- as real and important as they are -- are but a symptom of the problem, not the problem. Gore defines our problem as "what." He is silent on "who." For example, Gore does not ask or answer:

** Who is doing this?

** Who has been governing our planet this way and why?

** Cui bono? Who benefits?

** Who has suppressed alternative technologies resulting in our dependency on fossil fuels? Why?

** Who has generated how much financial capital generated from this damage?

** How did things get this bad without our changing? How much was related to fear of and dirty tricks of those in charge?

** How do we recapture resources that have been criminally drained and use them to invest in restoring environmental balance?

Utah Phillips once said, "The earth is not dying. It is being killed, and the people killing it have names and addresses." In one sentence, Utah Phillips told us more about global warming than Al Gore has told us in a lifetime of writing and speaking, let alone in An Inconvenient Truth.

Needless to say, Gore offers no names and addresses. Gore's "who" discussion is limited to population. He seems to imply that the issue is the growth in population combined with busy people being shortsighted, leading to some giant incompetency "accident." That makes it easy to avoid digging into the areas that would naturally follow from starting with "who" -- which should lead to dissecting the relationship between environmental deterioration and the prevailing global investment model that is such a critical part of the governance infrastructure and incentive systems.

Gore walks us through timelines showing the global warming of temperatures. By defining the problem as simply environmental damage, and shrinking the history down to temperatures, there is no need to correlate environmental deterioration with the growth of the global financial system and the resulting centralization of economic and political power. The planet is being run by people who are intentionally killing it. Their power is their ability to offer all of us ways of making money by helping them kill it. Hence, understanding how the mechanics of the financial system and the accumulation of financial capital relate to environmental destruction is essential. If we integrate these deeper systems into an historical timeline, authentic solutions will begin to emerge. But Gore omits the deeper systems and the lessons of how we got here and in so doing closes the door on transformation.

For example, there is no place on Gore's time line that shows:

** the creation of the Federal Reserve:

** the movement of currencies away from the gold standard:

** the growth of non-accountable fiat currency systems:

** the growth of consumer, mortgage and government debt;

** the growth in the superior rights of corporations over people and living things;

** the growth of "privatization" (which I call "piratization");

** the subversive and sometimes violent suppression of renewable energy, housing and transportation technologies and innovations;

** the growth of the offshore financial system and the use of that system to launder and accumulate vast sums of pirated capital accumulated through the onshore destruction of communities.

Understanding the fundamental imbalance of the corporate model -- where enterprises have the rights of personhood, but not the finite existence of people or the legal responsibilities and liabilities -- and the corporate model's economic dependence on subsidy that drives up debt, economic warfare and the destruction of all living things is a critical piece to developing actions to reverse environmental damage. Al Gore is a man that has made money for corporations his entire life. He is a member in good standing of the Tapeworm and his current lifestyle and this documentary are rich with the resources that corporations can provide.

There is also no personal accountability. Al Gore has not "come clean." There is no discussion of Gore's role in the Clinton Administration in facilitating worldwide economic centralization and warfare, and with it genocide and environmental destruction -- for example, there is no mention of The Rape Of Russia or the driving out of Washington of an investment model proposing to align places with capital markets to create a win-win economic model that he intimates is possible. For more, see my recently published case study on Tapeworm Economics, and the competition between two economic visions during the Clinton Administration, "Dillon, Read & the Aristocracy of Prison Profits".

The documentary ends with a long list of things that we can do. Many of these items are on my list. We all need to come clean in the process of evolving towards sustainability. However, without a new investment model and the governance changes that automatically follow, the result of An Inconvenient Truth is to teach us to be good consumers of global oil and consumer product corporations and banks and -- we are supposed to intuitively understand -- vote for Al Gore or the candidates he endorses. Gore draws us down a rabbit hole, which leaves us even more dependent on the people and institutions that created and profited from the problem in the first place. What that means is that the real solution will be significant depopulation. The viewer is left to preserve a bit of the shrinking American bubble to protect us from having to face the depopulation solutions underway (See above links on "The Rape Of Russia" and "Dillon, Read & The Aristocracy of Prison Profits".)

The way a tapeworm operates inside our bodies is to inject a chemical into its host that makes it crave what is good for the tapeworm and bad for the host. An Inconvenient Truth is an injection from the Tapeworm. Don't see it and crave a new round of what has not worked before. Things are not hopeless. There is no need to waste time and money adoring and financing the people who are killing the planet, or counting on the politicians who protect them.

To get you started, let me recommend that you take the money and time that you would spend watching An Inconvenient Truth and invest it in reading or watching a few of many authentic leaders with useful maps and solutions that are leading to serious ecosystem healing and transformation:

Mind Control, Mind Freedom By Jon Rappoport www.jonrappaportstore.com

Escaping the Matrix: How We the People Can Change the World By Richard Moore www.escapingthematrix.org

America: From Freedom to Fascism A documentary by Aaron Russo www.freedomtofascism.com

Scholars for 9/11 Truth (or) www.wanttoknow.info/0500504dav...

What The Bleep Do We Know? A documentary by William Arntz, Betsy Chasse and Mark Vicente www.whatthebleep.com

Messages from Water www.hado.net

The Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Bill Murphy, Chris Powell www.gata.org

Cynthia McKinney for Congress www.cynthiaforcongress.com

Ron Paul for Congress www.ronpaulforcongress.com

Can you imagine what these folks could do and what could happen if we all invested 2 hours each and the price of a movie theatre ticket in their work? Can you imagine what would happen if all the money donated to Al Gore and candidates like him were invested in authentic leaders and our access to them? I can -- and the truth and beauty of that future fills my life and work with hope.

Catherine Austin Fitts is President of Solari and may be contacted at www.solari.com

This is the list, that I want to share, it has no links, but I hope it will encourage everyone to research these issues for themselves!

Primary Objectives
Stop the polarization of America
Stop the domination of the Democratic and Republican parties over our political system
Shut down the Federal Reserve system
Return America's gold to Fort Knox and have it audited
Have Congress and the IRS, in a public forum, reveal the law that requires Americans to pay a direct, unapportioned tax on their labor.
Make computerized voting illegal in all 50 states
Keep the internet free and out of the control of large institutions
Rescind the law called the Real ID Act so Americans never have to carry a National ID Card
Make it illegal to implant RFID chips in human beings
Educate juries to the fact that they have the right to determine the law as well as the facts of a case
Educate juries to the fact that they are not obligated to follow the instructions of a judge
Stop Globalization because it is the path to a one world government
Protect our borders
Restore the environment
Put an end to the Patriot Act
Sign up millions of Americans so we can accomplish our objectives

Answer 2

Well we have already doe a good job at destroying most manufacturing concerns in this country. If we end the military industrial complex there will be damned few jobs left in this country and I shudder to think of trying to defend this country with weapons made in asia.

Answer 3

No, besides the shown fact that that's close. the defense force-commercial complicated does have some distinctive function yet standard it may well be extra appropriate to be rid of. i'm no longer saying our contemporary defense force coverage of worldwide intervention is carefully ineffective. I basically sense that is no longer so good as isolationism. Isolationism has been made an unsightly observe. i think of undemanding minded lonely people do no longer like it or some thing. It rather does no longer mean we don't commerce or have allies. It purely ability we at the instant are not bullies or showoffs.

Answer 4

As with any industry in a free market place, this industry will fold like a house of cards when there is no longer a market for its products.

With the latest crop of maniacal, power hungry dictators presently threatening every free nation in the world in one way or another, it's pretty apparent that this complex isn't going away too soon.

Answer 5

Not as long as you want to remain a free nation!A strong military stands between us and the terrorist of the world,with out a military industrial complex we would soon be a 3rd. world country.God bless America!

Answer 6

no because first the military has inspired everything from the tin can to the computer.it is one of our nation's largest employer's.and the"right" war bring's a sense of patriotism,affirmation and all the best out in a country.this may seem cynical but it's true.odd fact i saw many people before ww1 had never seen a toothbrush.they were issued thier 1'st one ever in the military in france.and american advertising was having a hard time trying to figure out how to sell them toothpaste and such when they got back cause it was so intimate.

Answer 7

I hope so. Gotta eliminate the Federal Reserve first, then the illegal income tax, and then the military industrial complex will collapse.

Answer 8

Yes. And Americans were warned about it. Those who prepare for war will always look for a reason to go to war. Like the scriptures say: If you live by the sword, ye shall die by the sword.

Answer 9

Absolutely not! As long as there are other cultures and governments in the world today, then we must be prepared to either offensive or defensive militarily. Knowledge is power!

Answer 10

Not likely. They own the government.

Answer 11

i dont know!