Liberals - Will you be happy if President Bush and our troops are successful in Iraq?

Question

Because I think you would rather have us fail than have the President succeed.

I agree with Ruth's definition of success:

Answer 1

I think all American will be happy if we could succeed in Iraq. BUT We cannot succeed. Trust me its not a liberal thing its an Iraqi thing.

they cannot understand nor want to believe that separation of church and state is a better form of government.

Iraq has many fractions fighting for the form of government
that they believe in ,
A democratic run nation to survive in Iraq needs The United States for protection - protection they don't want but they do understand that they need it.

so- in order for a democratic run government to survive in Iraq we must protect it with American lives and American currency.

that is certainly not a liberal stance,

only the iraqi people can determine the outcome in iraq.

Answer 2

Where have you been? The invasion of Iraq was in March 2003, not "a few months" after the Twin Towers bombing. And al Maliki has been in his position less than a year. It took him a few months (big surprise) to gather enough political power to be able to rein in some of his tentative supporters, and it's only been a matter of weeks since he's been able to work on groups like the Mahdists. Considering how many different groups he has to get to work together, I think you're asking a bit much. Gamblers don't quit the game just because every hand isn't a straight flush.

Answer 3

Right from the start its clear your mind is made up. This isn't a legitimate question. You've made your feelings about liberals known and you just want to give voice to those who would attack us. Would liberals be happy with success? YES

Would I be happy $50million and Scarlett Johanssen fell in my lap from the sky? YES

The odds are about the same. No wait, I give better odds to the money and SJ in my lap.

The point MOST OF THIS COUNTRY (not just liberals) are trying to make is that this war was planned and executed terribly and for the wrong reasons. We were lied to and many people on all sides have died for those lies. So yeah, if something good were to come out of it, I would be happy, as would many other people. But take a look at reality. What are the odds?

Answer 4

You live in a fantasy world if you believe it. The only thing bush has been truly successful at in Iraq is stealing their oil.


P.S. If you are so "happy" to have our troops in Iraq, why don't you have your sons or daughters enlist. Our troops could probably use the help. Maybe have your kids go over and let a few that have been there awhile come home to see their loved ones. Sound like a good idea to you? It would be the American thing to do. Wouldn't it?

Answer 5

No, I would be SO happy if we were successful. But what does successful mean? Successful in finding WMD's? that doesn't look likely. Successful in "freeing the people"? Well, perhaps we are because we destroyed their government and reinstated one that cannot control them pushing them deep, almost into civil war. And I don't think that's good.

What I want is or our troops to get out of there safely while leaving Iraq in a stable and safe situation. I don't know how possible it is now, but I think that is the only way we can be "successful" in Iraq. The fact is, we shouldn't have been there in the first place. I don't want to see more of our troops and Iraqi citizens die because of Bush's war.


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(Just a note)

Your "definition" of success is a sound one but you have to realize that it compromises the freedom of the Iraqis. What if they want to be a radical Islamic state? If we really believed in Democracy and freedom, we'd be Ok with that. Something tells me that if they did end up becoming a redical-Islamic state, we'd probably attack them again.

Answer 6

I would love it if he succeeded. But he hasn't defined that and what that looks like. Do you know? I've always said that if you are going to invade a country, do it right. Send in enough troops to secure the people, secure the national cultural treasures and make sure you make sure people are part of the process of building their country by giving them good paying jobs. Bush ,Cheney and Rumsfeld didn't do any of that. BTW, the left has been saying this all along. they have also been saying that Bush won't succeed because he didn't do this in the first place. The left knew before he invaded the country that he would fail precisely because he didn't research the culture or the people or the economy before he went in. AND GUESS WHAT, THE LEFT WAS RIGHT. And, they still are right. Bush isn't going to succeed, not because liberals don't want him to succeed but because he didn't do it right in the first place and he still isn't doing it right. My god, what does it take to get that through the remaining 33%'s heads? How many more of our young boys and girls have to die before you finally learn this?

Hey Ruth, Every Liberal answered her questions and then some. Bush hasn't even answered the question of what success looks like. and, if you think this Shiite government is going to be independent from Iran, you need to do a little research because it's too late. They are already taking orders from the Cleric Al Sadr who is highly allied with Iran and getting weapons from them already for their military death squads which are part of the government forces in iraq, who we are also paying..

Answer 7

Of course liberals want America to fail.

Liberals are self loathing creatures.

That explains a lot of what they do that makes no sense.

Liberals are the new fascist Nazi's.

They can't tolerate any opinion different than their's.

Look what they do to college speakers. They throw urine, pies, pull fire alarms, start fights, etc etc, to keep conservative's from speaking.

They want to pass laws to eliminate talk radio.

Liberals are intolerant, bigoted fascists, incapable of allowing free speech.

Islamicfascists have pledged to murder you and me.

Liberals want to help them.

Conservatives want to fight them.

Liberalism is ok when it is practiced.

But todays America's liberals, are not real liberals.

They are against change of all types and devoid of new idea's or solutions to problems.

Conservatives offered many new programs and initiatives the last 6 years, and liberals always fought against them, with never an original idea or solution to offer in return.


Liberals love it whan a woman murders a child that is unborn but hate it when criminals who rape, murder and commit attrocities get the death penality.

In reality the liberals of today are Stalinists and Marxists. Their belief that government is the solution to all problems and no wealth should be privately owned is what drives todays liberals.

They are also anti-American. They believe America is the worlds problem and the world would be better off without America in it.

Liberals are all for forsaking the poor weak and downtrodden if America's military is involved in keeping them alive, but insist on keeping America's poor weak and downtrodden in their miserable existance because of 'political correctness', (New Orleans and any urban city).

Answer 8

Actually, yes, I would have. Unfortunately, I don't think success is possible at this point. There were no WMD's, so we obviously won't succeed in finding them. There was no link between the Iraqi regime and Al Qaeda, so we obviously won't succeed in reducing the threat of terrorism. And it's just not possible to bring democracy to Iraq -- the Shi'a and Sunni are too busy trying to "cleanse" Iraq of each other -- so we won't succeed in bringing democracy to Iraq, either. At least, these were the goals that Bush articulated -- they're his definitions of success, not mine.

Personally, I would define success as an end to the daily insurgent terrorist attacks (car bombings, suicide bombings, kidnappings), and a return to normal day-to-day life. I don't think success in those terms is possible, either.

Answer 9

No, their hate for Bush is so great that they are against success (proof; see above answers) These same democrats that wish for the demise of America had their own congressperson vote for the war (not occupation, look up the definition and check out the laws and rules) As a former Marine, we see dissent, as a victory for the enemy. They use that and divide our country and that is happening right now because people are blind to the truth and filled with hate towards our President, that they are blinded to the fact that we will lose as long as there is infighting.

Answer 10

Difficult now to determine what a realistic definition of "success" might be.

Installing a stable, democratic, pro-USA government? It's just not going to happen.

Ridding Iraq of WMDs? It never had them.

Ridding the world of a dictator? Done - but there's no guarantee that Hussein's successors might not be worse. Worse still Iraq may become a failed state.