can these fish live together?

Question

i was thinkin of getting these fish: angelfish, betta, clown pleco and clown loach tetra. can they live together?

Answer 1

Get at least 4-5 angels, one betta (male), the clown pleco will be OK by himself and the clown loach needs about 3-5 friends to stay stress free and healthy. BTW, the clown loach is not a tetra, it is in the botia family.

For this grouping of fish, you will need to have about a 30 gallon tank. If you only get one or two of the angels and the clown loaches, you will not see the natural behavior of the fish.

The angelfish are cichlids and if you only have a couple, one will be bullied mercilessly. They really need a group to spread the agression around and not concentrate it on one or two fish. I have 9 gold angels in a 30 and they get along fine. Two of them have paired and about every 30 days or so, they lay a clutch of eggs on a piece of slate that they meticulously clean off and guard.

The loaches are not agressive and need friends to school with.

Answer 2

I would add a variety of guramies to the mix. They are a bigger fish, but get along well in a community tank. A variety of catfish would be nice too. In fact a tank that large will support and will need more scavengers. A tank that large will support a large population. It will look real good with a few large schools. Like increase the amount of neons to about at least a dozen. Be careful with some Tetras though, some species are aggressive. I would not put any frogs in, they are very messy. They leave large turds. One Plecostomus would be advised, it will get big in a tank that size. And will compete for food with the other scavengers. And win. Oh, to answer your question...yes, its a good starter mix. Although I think the glass cats are a bit too sensitive to be put in a starter tank. Maybe later when the tank is more seasoned they will do better. Any other catfish is fine. Also, make sure your Barbs are not the bigger fish, they will get aggressive and are known to be fin biters. Forgive me. I live in the US, A 180L tank referres to a 180 gallon Long tank. There is also a show tank which is taller rather than longer.

Answer 3

in what size tank?

i wouldn't put a betta and angelfish together, possible aggression issues. bettas are best kept in species tanks, i.e. alone! i wouldn't count them as general community fish.

there's no such thing as a clown loach tetra, i'm guessing you mean a clown loach, they grow slowly BUT they will reach about 12" and need to be in good groups. offloading them when they're bigger is not an option, there are too many unwanted large clown loachs out there. you could consider a yoyo loach which is just as cute but stays smaller!

i don't know much about the clown plec without knowing exactly what L number it is, i have a feeling, like other plecs, one name can apply to several species. either way, you need to consider it's full size and the huge bioload plecs put on a tank.

and an angelfish needs a 30 gallon tall tank MINIMUM as well as they grow larger than people expect them too!

Answer 4

I don't think I would include the betta in that mix. The long fins are a natural target for other fish, like the angels. Try mixing in a few tetras instead.

Answer 5

bettas can get along with those other fish. but if aggression does arise due to betta being territorial then switch around all your decor in the tank that way no one remembers their place and starts anew with no issues. remember to never put 2 male bettas in a tank.

Answer 6

i don't know , but i do know that when you go get then they will tell you if they can are not . i know you can't put aggressive fish with no-aggressive fish

Answer 7

well im not too sure, but i had a betta fish before, and i put like 18 golfish with him, and he beat the s-hieet out of them and ate all of them lol