Are all the critics of the war in Iraq just like Kerry in the 2004 elections?

Question

all they can do is criticize and say everything that is going wrong, but have no successful plan of their own to tell...

While this process is under way, and to facilitate it, the United States should significantly
increase the number of U.S. military personnel, including combat troops, imbedded in and
supporting Iraqi Army units.

(Baker - Hamilton report) Section 3 Military strategy

Answer 1

BRAVO ! I strongly agree with your wording !
I too don't mind hearing people's opinions but these HATERS offer no other solutions that have a positive indication .
It's easy to hate something one doesn't understand.

Answer 2

I have a plan - I think we need to mend our relationships with the International community in order to fix this mess. I think a great gesture for us would be to remove Bush and Cheney from office - that sends the message to the world community that the American people are back in charge with this last election and we don't support unilateral behavior by any government.

Let's work with the rest of the world to find a global solution. Let's act like a member of the team instead of the bully on the block. There are a lot of countries interests at stake here and that is one reason why the UN tried to proceed slowly. People weren't dying every day that we delayed like they are in other parts of the world. There was no reason to jump into Iraq. Afghanistan, yes. Get Bin Laden, yes. Iraq was a side trip that only Bush wanted to take it seems.

Peace!

Answer 3

I don't understand why people like yourself keep on asking the same question all over, about the critics not having any plan of their own. Heard of the Iraq Study Group's recommendations submitted to Bush?. It outlined everything that were needed to formulate an alternative strategy on Iraq. But Bush totally ignored the ISG's recommendations, and went ahead on his own by sending additional 21,500 troops to Iraq.

The Iraq Study Group recommendations (Baker-Hamilton recommendations as it is called), is widely available on the internet for download. Go, read it first. Stop your ignorance in repeatedly saying "there are no other plans". Just for once, educate yourself. The answers are there, but you and your kind simply refuse to look at them.

Answer 4

While I am STILL very dissapointed that the Democratic Party did not oppose this idiocy from day one, the PRIMARY blame lies with President Bush and his handlers. The bottom line is that the President is the one who caused the problem. It's HIS responsibility to fix it. The reality is that the damage this man has done to our economy, to our military, to our international diplomacy and reputation, and our social services is going to take DECADES to fix. DECADES. He has stuck future generations with a bill for a war while he CUT taxes. It doesn't take a genius to know that when youm increase spending you don't cut your monetary backing. Hence our deficets.

Now Democrats are responsible for what HE backed and initiated in Iraq? Give me a break. According to Bush the entire conflict ended 3 years ago when he got off of an air plane and declared victory. What kind of schmuck does it take to say something like bring it on as the commander in chief of a nation? It's like he read a Tom Clancy novel and tried to emulate Jack Ryan. The fictional Jack Ryan actually served this nation...something our President did not do.

Answer 5

Kerry voluntarily served in Vietnam on two tours and was on active duty in the Navy for four years. Bush enlisted in the Texas Air National Guard in 1968 to avoid the draft, knowing it was a free pass on Vietnam. As the son of a Congressman he moved quite quickly up a long waiting list to get the job. The TANG currently serves in Iraq, but in '68 it was a different story entirely. Bush defected from Texas Guard service in 1972 to "join the Alabama Guard". There is absolutely no record of him performing any Guard duties there. He was told he was ineligible for the Air Reserve unit in AL. and disappeared into a Senate campaign for 17 months while still enlisted. I wonder if the fact that Dad was a true WWII hero and soon-to-be governor helped George get an "honorable" discharge.

After serving his time in Vietnam- actually being there! - Kerry told Congress he disagreed with the way the war was continuing. Why? Because he'd seen it in action and he knew it was a complete mess. Bush brought us into Iraq on false information, was ultimately forced to admit it, and decided the best way to avoid the fact was to call everyone who didn't like it "not a true Patriot". He used nationalism as a means to an end and did it in an absolutely dictatorial fashion, much like Hitler in Germany.

If I criticize and say "things are going wrong" when they are, does that make me unpatriotic? Exactly what is going 'right' with the war in Iraq? It is not a war on terror, it is an attack of one country. Get real. There are those who say "If you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all." I'm sure that will serve them wonderfully in the face of a terrible reality. Not. What successful plan was it you were looking for? One to get the troops out because they are simply being killed in the midst of a civil war? You'll find this in nearly every recent Democratic pamphlet. Read. It's lovely that we have to make up for the terrible mess Bush has made of his position and that people like you will be complaining about the humongous deficit he will be leaving by blaming it on the Democrats for the next four years.

Kerry served his country and had the balls to say he disagreed with the war in Vietnam in front of Congress. That is simply amazing and shows me that he is an upstanding, intelligent and well-intentioned person. Bush lied, defected, lied, started a useless war, lied some more, refused to pull out even when he knew he was completely in the wrong. Then he denigrated everyone who didn't believe he was doing the right thing and used propaganda as a means of describing patriotism. This shows me that he is a dirty player and a rather evil man.

I hope I am just like Kerry in criticizing this war. Blind ignorance is not my cup of tea.

Answer 6

Whether the critics have a plan of their own or not is irrelevant. The question they are actually asking is: Is the current Iraq war plan working? And based on public opinion the answer is an emphatic no.

Answer 7

Most democrats, like you're suggesting, do nothing but criticize Bush at the turn of every corner. Bush does deserve to be scolded for his handling of Iraq, however, but none of the people doing this have a comprehensive strategy of their own.

I want to make a point, however: When Donald Trump was asked by an reporter "how much longer is this feud going to go on between you and Rosie", he responded by saying "as long as people like you keep asking me about her". The point is that these politicians don't feel as though they need to have a plan, but just convince America, through empty rhetoric to vote for them. As long as people in this country are stupid enough not to see through this, and start holding their feet to the fire, these politicians will keep doing this to us.

Answer 8

is there a "successful plan"... using your definition of success...

I highly doubt it... and I think you guys are figuring that out...

so now all you can say is... "well you don't have a plan either"...

well... if some genius wouldn't have made a mess that's impossible to clean up... we wouldn't be looking for miracle solutions...

if you're waiting on a successful plan from anyone... don't hold your breath...

that whole "failure is not an option" thing you guys say is going to bite you in the fanny when success isn't an option either...

don't step in poop mixed with super glue... if you don't like hearing people complain that "it smells funny in here"

Answer 9

I think that's overgeneralized. Some critics have made specific suggestions, some of which make more sense than others.

Answer 10

people like you just dont get it- this war was unnecessary in the first place. it was sold by cheney to make money for his oilfield tech business, and supported by bush because he is a religious nutjob puppet with a misguided messianic stance that mesopotamia wants democracy. how bout we start with a mea culpa along the lines of "the moron i supported really sh!t the bed on this one", then move on to "we're sorry we called all you guys who had it right in the first place "america haters", then finish it up with "can one of you smart guys help us figure out a way to mitigate the damage"- but no, you continue to ignore the facts, like bushco made plans for iraq prior to 9/11, that iraq and 9/11 had no connection, and that OSAMA BIN LADEN AND SADDAM HUSSEIN ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON!! questions like yours make me wonder if bush really is the dimmest bulb in the fixture. YOUR GUY screwed the pooch; now its the DEMS fault they cant just fix it all?