If you hate Bush do you hate Clinton as well??

Question

Clinton bombed Iraq on a regular basis.
He said in one of his state of the union speeches that Saddam is producing nuclear and chemical weapons. He said we must deal with him. Yet he failed to do anything.....

Sure the war in Iraq is a failure but doing nothing about Saddam during Clinton was also a failure. Do you hate Clinton as much as Bush?

Do you think dropping bombs without end is better then sending in troops and trying to establish a government?

Answer 1

I did hate Clinton, and left the military in disgust after 14 years of active service because of his selfishness and lack of caring about the rising international treats to us that where becoming more and more serious at the end of the 90's while cutting the military in HALF and giving us sloggans like "do more with less" so we would work harder for him. And that was clinton, more worry about looking good and cheating on his wife while ON THE JOB, instead of DOING his job as Commander in Chief.

But after 9/11 I rejoined the Active Reserves and I am still serving.

As for Bush...um...
The mistakes Bush has made have been having "rummy" as Defense Secretary for the first 6 years of his turn in office, and then giving the green light for an occupation of Iraq with not enough troops.
The invasion was brilliant (ala German WW2 Blitz) fast moving, hard hitting, small forces, going straight for the heart of the enemy, which achieved the result of defeating the Iraq military very fast. BUT on the following chapter AFTER the invasion on any war, and also in this one, the OCCUPATION, the forces have never been large enough to correctly control all security of Iraq while giving sufficient time for the new country to construct a new military, police and security forces to take over the duties of law and order, and THAT has been the problem all along in Iraq!

Now, philosophically, the course in foreign policies this President is taking is correct:
-on the offensive against terrorists,
-and doing whatever it takes to win the mess in Iraq...simply because we have to!
Bush inhered a world from the 90's where all these battles we are in right now were been brewed or were already going on, just under the "radar" of the general public by the Clinton administration, for example:

-Osama and his extremist pals where in full swing attacking us, beginning with their attack against us in 1993 (first WTC bombing), later the embassies bombing massacres in Africa, the USS Cole bombing in Yemen, etc. we were just kept asleep here in the US, unaware of the storms coming!

-Iraq was wiggling out of the santions and the requirements under the 1st Gulf War cease fire, by shotting at our forces in the "NO Fly Zones", breaking the cease fire between them and us, which was in effect since the end of the first Gulf War in 91, clear acts of war against us. Remember, the first Gulf war was technically still on, just on "hold" by a cease fire accord, but there was NO Peace treaty between Iraq and us, we were technically STILL at war, and the minute saddam started to break the requirement by interfering with the arms inspectors (which rose fears he was getting ready to make WMDs), and later kicking them out in 98, plus shooting at our pilots in the "No Fly Zones" we had the RIGHT to go in and get him.
Think of it as a criminal that is on parole out in the street, with the understanding that if he breaks his parole requiremenst he goes right BACK to jail again, and in this case he DOES break his parole terms, well... he goes back to jail!. Same thing here!, the minute saddam broke the cease fire terms of the 91 war in the mid 90's by shooting at our pilots and getting out of the WMD inspection regime he was due to be invaded, problem was Clinton didn't have the guts to take him out, and Bush did.

So Bush has made mistakes, one of them the implementation mistake in Iraq, (the badly done occupation) but his view of what needs to be done is right on, no administrations is perfect, and under the extreme situation we are today in the world Bush is not doing that bad, could be doing better, but not that bad, so I don't hate him, but I do critize him hard, and I am disapointed some in him not seeing when things have gone bad right away and correcting the course.

Answer 2

How about if i did not vote for Obama because I hated Bush and hated Hillary and saved my wish. Why?! ought to each and anyone %. their worst and maximum irrational critic for the time of their marketing campaign to have them be your precise hand human being? The notorious now Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. Why?! ought to each and anyone no longer bat a watch even as your %. for Treasury Secretary, Tim Geithner, is stuck on tax evasion? A motive force with injuries and d.u.i.'s isn't gonna be able to get a job at Greyhound. Does each and anyone see the common sense right here? Why?! ought to you %. William Lynn, the former vp and lobbyist for the biggest protection contractor (Raytheon) because the Deputy Secretary of protection? are you able to assert, "conflict of pastime"? What replace and want were you touching on? the single the position there is finally darkish epidermis interior the oval workplace? That any mendacity cheat can make it? i'm a minority, no i'm no longer racist. i'm authentic!

Answer 3

Here is the difference Clinton listen to his secretary of defense!!! He didn't go to war with Iraq! He didn't break it so we didn't have to fix it. He didn't give Haliburnton the no bid contract!!!
Don't get me wrong Clinton had his flaw but in no way shape or form is he responsible for Iraq!!
Further more trying to establish a government where one is not wanted. You can bring a horse to water but can't make him drink. Just because we as American love our constition doesn't mean Iraqi's would even like to have one of their own.

Answer 4

well... this is very focused just on Iraq... and there are many other issues to each of them...

but the real issue here... is the destabilization of Iraq... no one liked Saddam... but the question has always been... "how do you stabilize Iraq after he's gone?"

and clearly... that question was asked for a very good reason...

also, it would seem, that while Clinton said those things... he wasn't positive enough to put boots on the ground...and that's a major difference...

you could basically say the same about the elder Bush too...

my real pickle is with Osama for both of them... both should have killed him... and neither did...(so far)

and NAFTA-China to a lesser degree... they both love it...

Answer 5

History has a way of repeating itself as the observation goes. Sooner, or, later, as the tide continues to turn, the people will respond to the pervasive sickness that permeates this regime and the land, and do something about it. The populace will once again become sick and tired of the sickness. When that happens, and I do believe that day is coming, a second president in my lifetime will be leaving the White House in disgrace. The people will line the streets and salute farewell to the commander-in-thief in similar fashion to how they "welcomed" him on "inauguration" day, June 20, 2001. The difference this time will be, however, that George W. Bush will be leaving the White without legitimately having been elected in the first place.

Answer 6

they're both idiots. bush doesn't know how to fight a war and clinton was too scared to get into one.

Stupid. When you fight a war, you come in, fight and go home. If you stay beyond that it's not a war, it's an occupation. you can't "win" an occupation without being willing to put huge numbers of people into ditches and shoot them. Iraqis don't want us there, until we crush their spirit, they will continue to fight. Hopefully it'll just peter out. I'd hate to see America lose her soul just try to get some people who hate us to like us.
Stupid.

Answer 7

They will never hate Clinton, "The Bl*w Job Pres", History will rate the two of them, Talk to them in twenty years. Hell they will still stick up for Clinton.

Answer 8

Hate Bush, not Clinton

Answer 9

No.Only Bush. Bush has initiated a chain reaction that could result in a 3rd world war. He did it behind a pack of lies. Let me explain...

Iraq mortal enemy of Iran
Al-Qeada hated Iraq for being secular and educating women
Invading Iraq killed mortal enemy of Iran
Iran now controls two countries
Iran now free to go nuclear
China strikes oil deal with Iran
Russia is sending missiles to Iran for defense
Israel now forcing US foreign policy to invade Iran
Egypt and Jordan now consider going nuclear
Korea goes nuclear and offers Iran technology

... all following Bush lies to invade Iraq

Cheney only sees "progress in Iraq"???
Cheney says insurgents in last throws 2.5 years ago

So no. The sins of Clinton pale in comparison to the decisions of Bush.

Answer 10

Nope. I think Clinton was a fine president.