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2007-01-24 11:11:14 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities History

BOODA2009 - What the H-E-L-L are you talking about?!

2007-01-24 11:27:29 · update #1

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Reading other answers I suspect that we’re not all using the same definition of these two terms. Neither should be confused with being polite or simply respecting others and neither existed within the United States and the definitions I use are as follow:

Chivalry, a system of ethical ideals that arose from feudalism and had its highest development in the 12th and 13th cent.
Chivalric ethics originated chiefly in France and Spain and spread rapidly to the rest of the Continent and to England. They represented a fusion of Christian and military concepts of morality and still form the basis of gentlemanly conduct. Noble youths became pages in the castles of other nobles at the age of 7; at 14 they trained as squires in the service of knights, learning horsemanship and military techniques, and were themselves knighted, usually at 21.
The chief chivalric virtues were piety, honor, valor, courtesy, chastity, and loyalty. The knight's loyalty was due to the spiritual master, God; to the temporal master, the suzerain; and to the mistress of the heart, his sworn love. Love, in the chivalrous sense, was largely platonic; as a rule, only a virgin or another man's wife could be the chosen object of chivalrous love. With the cult of the Virgin Mary, the relegation of noblewomen to a pedestal reached its highest expression.
heraldry, system in which inherited symbols, or devices, called charges are displayed on a shield, or escutcheon, for the purpose of identifying individuals or families. In the Middle Ages the herald, often a tournament official, had to recognize men by their shields; thus he became an authority on personal and family insignia. As earlier functions of the herald grew obsolete, his chief duties became the devising, inscribing, and granting of armorial bearings. The use of personal and family insignia is ancient (it is mentioned by Homer), but heraldry proper is a feudal institution developed by noblemen using personal insignia on seals and shields that came to be transmitted to their families. It is thought to have originated in the late 12th cent., and to have been prevalent in Germany, France, Spain, and Italy, and imported into England by the Normans. The crusades and tournaments which drew together knights from many countries caused heraldry to flourish in Western Europe and the Muslim world. The practice of embroidering family emblems on the surcoat, or tabard, worn over chain mail in the 13th cent. accounts for the term "coat of arms." The use of armorial bearings spread rapidly thereafter through all grades of feudal rank above squire. Private assumption of arms became so common that Henry V forbade it, and on the chartering of the Heralds' College in 1483 the regulations pertaining to heraldry were placed in the hands of the Garter King-of-Arms. Arms were borne by families, corporations, guilds, religious houses, inns of court, colleges, boroughs and cities, and kingdoms. In the United States the seals and insignia of colleges, cities, and the like are examples of the persistence of the heraldic tradition. For methods and conventions of displaying armorial bearings.

2007-01-24 11:52:38 · answer #1 · answered by Randy 7 · 1 1

Stop being such a freaking drama queen and get over yourself. You know what? Normally, no, I wouldn't be so rude to a lady (I hope). But I am so sick of people spewing this bullcrap about chivalry being dead. I do follow this mysterious and stupid book of rules that has been past down by idiots, because it's the way I was taught to do it. But if women are going to stop appreciating it, perhaps I should just stop.

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What do you think I'm talking about? I've heard so many people say that "Chivalry is dead." But I, as well as many other people I know, have always followed this ridiculous code of "rules" that need to be used when dealing with women. It's stupid.

2007-01-24 11:19:44 · answer #2 · answered by booda2009 5 · 0 4

Chivalry has never existed and will never work in America.
Heraldry on the other hand can be admired for example
on the jacket of any ordinary high school student.

You are welcome

2007-01-24 11:19:37 · answer #3 · answered by saehli 6 · 0 1

in 1969, november i think in tacoma washington, when some man hating female of the species decided that politeness and gentlemanly behavior was in some way offensive to women in general and all but slaped my face for holding a door for her. i pretty much quit showing that my mother raised me correctly at that point in time.

2007-01-24 11:20:53 · answer #4 · answered by captsnuf 7 · 2 1

right about the time women got the right to vote. if they want to be equal there can't be any 'chivalry', lord knows most feminists will practically crucify you if you even hold the door for them, i've had woman strangers tell me they didn't need my help when i held the door for them in public

2007-01-24 11:16:16 · answer #5 · answered by NASER™ 4 · 2 2

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