Reform of Rape Laws - what should be included?

Question

They are talking about reforming the law so more convictions due to a woman being too drunk to make an informed decision - that would be defined as rape. But isnt it true that men often wake up to a mistake in their bed - would that count as rape?

Should people be more responsible for themselves not to get drunk in public in the first place?

Also, should both parties be kept a secret from press and general public until successful conviction.

If a person accusing someone of rape is then found to be lying should they have to pay comp, fines or be imprisoned?

Answer 1

Reform of Rape Laws - what should be included?How about castration.

Answer 2

i think they are taking these new laws too far, and are steering away from what rape really is which is a sexual attack involving force and sometimes violence.
i think if someone has gone on a night out, been drunk and had sex but not sure if they consented or not is more like being taken advantage of then being assaulted. if they do bring this new law in then yes your right it should count for the men as well!
some of these cases which have been reported are, i find, an insult to the victims who were actually assaulted.
there should though be more done to get convictions for those who were raped, one way in doing that would be to make sure more police officers have the right training to deal with these cases.
i think the victim should always remain anonymous, and maybe even after a conviction and that is because there is so much stigma attached to rape that it can be humiliating for some victims.
i think if someone has made up a rape allegation then they should pay compensation as well as facing a possible sentence, those women who do that are committing a terrible crime, destroying innocent mens lives and ruining the chances of genuine victims being taken seriously.

Answer 3

The definition of forceable rape is generally when a man/woman says no and the other party continues dispite being refused. Much evidence is looked at before the DA decides to prosecute including forensics, the couples statements, any witnesses with knowledge, past criminal records of the parties etc. People do get drunk but that still doesn't give anyone the license to take unfair advantage of them. Names are public so anyone else with info about them could come forward. Liars who claim to be raped when in fact they're not can be charged with crimes of filing a false report, perjury etc and may also face financial penalties. Liars can additionally be charged with a civil complaint. There's protection in the system - the standard that a person is innocent until proven guilty hasn't changed.

Answer 4

identities should be secret until a conviction.

women who "cry" rape and are found to be lying should receive the same sentance as rapists.

women who are drunk and claim they couldn't make an informed decision should control their drinking and not call a mistake rape as I image most of the men involved were also drunk.

men also wake up to mistakes but put it down to experience, women should also be humble enough to accept this.

a women being drunk isn't a defence for a man, if the women says no then that means no however drubk she is. being too drunk to remember does not mean the man has forced himself.

Answer 5

I agree with all your points, but watch out for screeching banshees and the thumbs down. There is always an attempt to drown out common sense and fairness when trying to discuss this subject.

Why is sex always portrayed (in this age of supposed equality) as something that men do to women? Have they seen some of the behaviour around the clubs of an evening. If a women is given the right to decide (unilaterally) the following day that she was drunk, and therefore, was raped; why can't the man, who was probably also drunk, make a counter claim that he was too drunk to know what he was doing? How does a drunk women remember the following day, that she actually had sex, and possibly with whom.

Taking up your point, I have almost been physically sick the following day, when I realise who I have been with. Men have a much stronger sex urge than women, (as nature intended) and in the past this was recognised by women and made them take more responsibility and care. Also, in the past, the fear of an unwanted pregnancy and not being able to do anything about it, caused society to be repelled by rape, and the fact that premarital sex was seriously frowned upon, again, underlining societies strong feelings about it at that time. Society, and female attitudes have changed a lot since then.

I think a women who falsley accuses men of rape are beneath contempt, and definitely should be named, and should receive the same punishment that the man would have received, had he been found guilty.

Feminist pressure groups are pushing now for the right to lecture juries (pre-trial) on the seriousness of rape and its affect on the victim. Two points - what gives these groups the right to appear in court to lead and intimidate juries (they are not democratically elected) about matters that they already understand? Also, at this point, the crime is only 'alleged'.

Today, falling within the definition of rape, is what we all consider to be 'true rape', that is, a stranger forcing himself upon a women and probably also threatening her life, together with, right at the other end of the spectrum, a boyfriend, or could be a husband with whom the women has had previous sexual relations, claiming the following day not to have given consent to sex because she was too drunk. Apparently, also, there are circumstances where, if a man is acccused, the onus is on him to prove that he is innocent.

It is profoundly depressing that normal (middle of the road) women don't speak out about this distortion of the definition of rape, and its gross unfairness to men, and to object to being treated like irresponsible children devoid of any sense of responsibility for their own actions.

Answer 6

1. Penalty should be the same, no matter the gender.

2. Duh?

3. Probably

3. Same penalty as the one falsely accused.

4. Also all these female school teachers should be treated exactly as the male teachers are when having sex with the students.

Answer 7

Castration followed by death for repeat offenders. Perhaps a torture of some kind or crucifixion. The same goes for women who claim they've been raped when they were eventually ashamed of sleeping with 8 immigrants in one night.