BEFORE the Sun, seas formed.They didn't freeze. Water above didn't fall to ground as snow. Why?

Question

On the 3rd day of creation, the seas were formed. But why didn't they quickly freeze. Water from above didn't fall to the ground as snow. Those two incidents should have happened. On the 4th day, the sun was created. Remember, a day to the Lord is 1,000 years. What's the explanation?

Answer 1

I'm not a Christian (actually an atheist), but a good number of Christians would say that they don't believe the Creation story to be literally true.

For those who say it is true, I guess their explanation would be that God can do whatever he wants.

Of course, one could argue that the water DID freeze and the creation of the Sun made it melt.

Answer 2

GENESIS 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

It would seem the Sun was in existance at the same time as the Earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

This sounds like rotation of the Earth began

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

This sounds like air and water

We do have Clouds water above the water.

Here we are at the end of the second day.

We also don't know for sure it's 1,000 years.

Could be 50,000 year or 500,000 years.

Everyone SEEMS to forget TIME is a relative commidity and even SCIENCE agrees the first level of the Period Chart was created atomically in the first 5 minutes of the universe.

500 miliseconds after the bang PROTONS, NEUTRONS and ELECTRONS were bonding into hydrogen and helium.

Most of the Hydrogen in the Universe was created in the first few moments after the Big Bang.

That's at least what science speculates.

People also forget that according to Dr. Carl Sagan's Cosmic Calendar we are still in the FIRST MONTH and that man was created in the first hour of the last day of the first month.

Sagan says man was created in a matter of minutes during that last day.

We are still in the first hour.

People also forget that MASS was being expelled at speeds close to the speed of light, so the Universe, time and size wise, was in RELATIVISTIC space, not NEWTONIAN space.

Remember, if you are 18 and your 36 year old mother goes around Alpha Centauri at about half the speed of light when she returns YOU are 38 and SHE is 37.

This is because you are NEWTONIAN based on Earth and she is RELATIVISTICALLY based in space at half the speed of light.

So, Sagan says it took 30 days to make the universe as we know it and man came along in the first few minutes of the first hours of the last day of the month. We have yet to be in the second hour.

The Bible says 7 days, Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" says 30 days.

If we go by the Bible, man is older than science says man is.

The universe is maybe 8 days old, 9 days tops and man is 2-3 days old.

Man is 1/6th as old as the stars and planets according to the Bible.

Science says the Universe is 14 billion years old and man is 1 - 4 million years old.

Man is a relative newcommer according to science.

The Bible says Man is older and has been here longer.

If we take the size of the univers to be 14 billioin years than man has been alive closer to 2 billion years.

Of course we don't know what God years are and man may hve been created near the end of the 6th day. But that would still make man closer to 1 billion years old.

But man was in Eden, a closed environment contained from the "nomianal" Earth for a period of time. We don't know how long that time span was. Then MAN got CAST OUT into the "nominal" Earth as we know it.

So man's presence on Earth could be as little as 1 million years.

If the Sagan time scale is correct, were' still in God's day of rest, the 7th day.

With man created just before Midnight on the 6th day.

It comes close to the Dr. Sagan method.

IF the speed the sun travels in space is slowing, then MAN lives shorter than he did way back when.

We are NEWTONIANIZING.

We are dropping out of relatavistic space.

No one yet has any idea how fast the SUN travels in space out from the BIG BANG towards the fringe of the universe.

Answer 3

I'm not christian....muslim myself. We sort of believe in that story, but believe man has changed the old testament overtime.....but the basic principles are there........just say it was only 6 days with no rest instead of 7
These are mostly my opinions though, not entirely reflective on the muslims viewpoint.

I think the point is that god created the universe...... it was his will.
If you believe day 3 and 4 should be switched, he's not going to be too angry probably, but should'nt probably go around preaching it different. Let that be between you and him.

I personally believe that light means life. Like his grace on the earth. Also, life, following science (sorry using the word science losely) started in the oceans. So you'd need the water before the light.

Not entirely sure on the thousand years part. I think it shows up a few differnet places in the bible referring to different things.
What comes to mind, it might be an islamic view though, but almost positive from the Bible (could be wrong), .....is that Noah lived 1,000 years and in heaven thats like walking from the front of your house to the back.

Walking from the front to the back takes maybe 10 seconds..... could take 9 seconds...or 30......just representing that a day in heaven is much longer than a day on earth. Again i think to point out that the 7 day creation story isn't 7, 24 hour days.

Not sure of too many people taking that story's time frame literal. ...have heard of a few though. And dinosaur bones were put on earth by the devil.

Taking something else into account. Darwinism and when homosapiens came into existence....basically follows the adam and eve story...sort of. Not everyone jumped to the next evolutionary level, only a small group made it to homosapiens and populated the world from there.


Islam gets critisizm on this, a sort of similar point. It says in the Koran, not an exact quote, that the stars are closer to us than the moon. We obviously know they are not. Same time though, we are created from "star dust" and not the moon. Again, metaphors versus literal.

Answer 4

enable's say that graph is legitimate, what sea point fall are you talking approximately? You mean that little bit on the top over some months era? You truthfully believe that has any value on the customary upward thrust in sea point? i think of the subject right it is your failure to understand what you're seeing. you may not make an assumption like sea point is falling purely because of the fact of an extremely short era the place it would desire to have dropped some millimeters, whilst there is up and down variability the whole time using seasonal substitute, and check out the top of that graph... this is increasing returned! purely a bad argument.

Answer 5

It's a biblical metaphor a scientific explaination is as irrelevant as asking "How many degrees or units of measurement are there between like and love?" or "How many angels may sit upon the head of a pin?"

However, if you like the Lord's workshop is kept at a comfortable temperature during regular working hours, 72 degrees the whole time, someone clearly neglected to mention this point.

Answer 6

The earth was much warmer in the distant past; heat left over from the fury of its creation. This would have stopped the water from freezing.

Answer 7

The Bible was written by man not God.
While some of it was divinely inspired it is still the work of man, and as such it is flawed.
You can't take everything you read in it literally.
It is designed as a guide to living, not a text book on creation.


Just curious, but where did you come up with the 1000 years to a day?

Answer 8

The old Testament speaks in parable and metaphor, meaning that it's symbolic and not literal. The sun came first in reality, then the earth. The seas came after that.

Answer 9

THE EARTH WAS NOT FORMED IN 7 DAYS!!!
It is 4.5 billion years old
How do you explain fossils, the layers of the grand canyon, or good old chemical studies hmm?
I believe in my God, Hachem almighty, but not in 7-day creation
Maybe God measured it in God days, and seven God days equal 4.5 billion earth years
That, I can believe
But the sun was made before the earth, 100%

Answer 10

If you believe as you say, then why is it such a stretch to believe that God kept the seas from freezing?