i think pete rose should be in the hall of fame and anyone that uses steroids should not does anyone agree?

Answer 1

Yes I'm with you. Pete Rose did nothing to artificially enhance his performance. He was just a degenerate gambler :>) and too proud or stubborn to admit what he did. To punish him by a lifetime ban from the Hall of Fame is way over the top.

Answer 2

Are you using logic here? Yes, based on his on-the-field performance, Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame. Second, nobody who is currently under consideration for the HOF has been convicted of using steroids. It's suspected, sure, and I bet McGwire, Bonds, and Sosa did. Until it is PROVEN though, you have to let their on-the-field performance speak for themselves. I've often heard the criteria is "During the time he played, was that player the best, among the best, or one of the best players either at his position or in all of baseball". There can be NO DENYING that for the last 20 years the best player in baseball has been Barry Bonds. If there's no proof it's not right just to say "Oh they used steroids, they can't go in". Ty Cobb was a horrible person and a racist. Is it ok for him to be in the HOF? Is that acceptable to you? Gaylord Perry made a career out of cheating and has made a career since then talking about it. Should he be in the HOF? Where do you draw the line?

Answer 3

I have nothing against the guy and obviously he deserves to be in there as the all times hits leader, BUT I will still say NO. The whole issue is a lot deeper than just Pete Rose himself, you have to think back to the Black Sox scandal and what that did to baseball. You can not have players beating on games, he's lucky he's not in jail, it's like allowing people to munipulate the stock market, I'm sorry but you are wrong, but I understand your viewpoint, but rules are rules and they are in place for a reason. Steroids were technically not a banned substance when those guys were using, so how can you punish people for doing something that technically was not against the rules. McGwire will get in eventually, Rose will not, until maybe he is really old or deceased.

Answer 4

The baseball hall of fame, unlike others, has a clause about character in its criteria for inclusion. Pete Rose a) bet on games (including his own team); b) denied it repeatedly; c) accepted a "lifetime ban" from baseball, which he knew included Hall of Fame, even while continuing to deny gambling; d) denied gambling for another 15 years; e) suddenly, after writing a book, admits that yeah, he actually had gambled.

He not only gambled but lied about it barefaced for 15 years, changing his story only when it was profitable for him.

It can be argued that the character clause does not belong in hall of fame selection criteria, that only the players' careers should matter. But, Rose's gambling, by tying baseball in with professional gambling, emperilled the game. Just like Jackson from the 1919 White Sox, a lifetime ban for Rose will maybe make the next morally challenged individual think twice before messing around.

The full report on the investigation is at http://www.dowdreport.com/

Answer 5

Until the fans become responsible for who gets in the Hall our thoughts don't mean much. Fans all over have been writing to the Hall committee for years and there is no budging them ever letting Pete Rose in the Hall. His name has been taken off the ballot.

As for steroid users, I would base it on how long the took them.
If some guy used once I'm not going to punish his entire career for one bone head move. As for using multiple years, no can do.
You don't deserve the honor.

Answer 6

Face it nearly everybody was using steroids during the 90's. So if you wanna just say that baseball didnt happen during the 90's that's great for you. Personally I think that unless you've tested positive for steroids, you shouldnt be left out of the Hall of Fame for steroid use.

Answer 7

r u kiddin pete rose was like the best ever hits wise and steriods were around back then they just werent as popular as nowadays . mark mcguire aint gunna get in the hall of fame so y should anyone else get in . i dont care how many homeruns barry bonds he took steroids and thats cheating

Answer 8

I personally think Pete should be in the HOF, but it won't happen in my lifetime. The gambling will keep him out.

Steriods??? Why not? Athletes have been trying to gain the advantage for decades.... I say ALL players in ALL sports should HAVE to take steriods....let's see how big and freaky-looking we can get them. After all, they are ENTERTAINERS first.

Imagine a 400 lb. first baseman who can run a 4.6 in the 40!

Answer 9

No to the first and yes to the second.

If Rose had been in the corporate world, he'd be serving a long, long, long sentence for inside trading. Nuff said.

Steroids have been around for more than 40 years.

Answer 10

pete rose should be elected into the hof because of his outstanding numbers. McGwire, Sosa, Palmero and others who are suspects for using steroids should be allowed into the HOF. baseball players play 162 games in about 210 days (7months x 30days, 8months for playoffs), while traveling nationwide. their bodies are pushed to stressful measures and required to positively produce daily in games. yes, players nominate themselves into such positions and get payed millions for doing so. however, the average lifespan of prof athletes is less than the average. i hate to admit or say, but sports at the prof level is for entertainment. most of the athletes have lost the love or desire for the game with their extreme demands for ridiculous contracts. comparing it to entertainment, imagine not allowing movie stars, models, producers and others to receive awards for their work because they used computers or had surgies done for enhancement. if we lived in such utopian society, we would have ugly models and bad athletes.