which of these cars would win a race?

Question

saab 9.7 with a v8 engine, 5.2 liters, 300 hp, 330 torque
or
mitsubishi eclipse from 2003, 4 cylinder inline engine, 2.4 liters, 147 horsepower, and around 158 torque.

thanks if you might be able to help me out, my friend keeps saying his car is faster than mine, i just wanna prove him wrong w/o actually breaking any laws or damaging my car

thanks to everyone encouraging me to race my saab, but no. i wanted a hypothetical answer. my friend and i are new drivers, if he wants a ticket or to destroy his mitsu, he can go right ahead. p.s. who ever mentioned a 2005 saab, there was no 9.7 model that year. thats about all i know about cars.

and the 9.7 is an SUV

the saab 9.7 is an SUV

Answer 1

While horsepower doesn't always have to do with it, in this case the saab would win a race. I am not sure if that is what you wanted to hear or not, but there you go.

Answer 2

The Saab. The eclipse might take you off the line because the 2.4 will rev quicker. After a very short distance the HP and TQ of the 5.2 liter will become obvious. Therre is no replacement for displacement. In short the Saab motor can do more work over time and delivers more power to the drive wheels...you'd kick his/her rear end. The eclipse by end of the 1/4 mile would be looking at the Saab's tailights and glowing exhaust pipes.

Answer 3

The last 2 generations of Eclipse are not sports cars. They are overweight, underpowered poseurmobiles.

The Saab 9-7 is a Saab in name only, and is also not a sports car, and you should never race it.

Realistically, though, despite the Saab having more power, I'd put my money on the Eclipse, as it would be less likely to get its idiot driver killed.

If you would like some idea what the outcome of this race would be, check this link:
http://www.evostreetracers.com/streetracingaccidents94.html

Answer 4

Lets go with a 2005 Saab, since those specs are the same as your description, power to weight is the strongest factor, so in this case 15.55 to one.

The 2003 Mitsubishi has a little worse 15.75.

So that's not a lot of difference. Looks like it's down to traction and drivers. Best case is that the driver with the most practice is going to win.

If the friend is ready to put up or shut up, then have some 3rd person you both trust and respect as a good racer to take both of them down the local dragstrip on grudge night on two passes.

Total cost... Pizza: 20 bucks
Soda: 10 bucks
Dragstrip fees: 40-60 bucks.
So for around 50 apiece this will be someones bragging rights.

My money is on the vehicle with the automatic and the owner sly enough to get their car tuned up before the race.

Fame is great but the one who loses a bragging rights competition will never live it down.

Best wishes. Drive safe and sober.


Now get out there and whip his butt.

Answer 5

Those numbers doesn't count unless we don't know the weight of the vehicle in question. At first when I saw your question, I realised that there is no Saab 9.7 (as a car) cause I knew that it was an SUV. Then I continued to read your details and you said that it is an SUV.

So in this case I'm afraid to tell you that your friend will be faster than you cause though the numbers are lessen than yours, don't forget that he has a sport car. It was build with the aerodynamics for racing, the weight is for a race car. So yes he would be faster than you.

On the other hand if your engine was on a sport car, then you will be faster than him, hun.

Answer 6

The Saab would win, unless the Saab's transmission is poorly

designed or not in decent running condition. I mean, the horse-

power that the Saab has virtually the same power as the top en-

gine size and power of (I don't know how you can fit an engine of

that size in a Saab's engine compartment, but...), which would

be about that of a Lincoln Navigator SUV, and the Eclipse would

still get beat by the huge and heavy SUV.
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Answer 7

If the Eclipse had the v6 then it could win--- the eclipse given it's weight and drag ratio would be about equal at 2700 pounds of weight. but the eclipse weighs about 3300 pounds vs the 4800 of the Saab. with almost half the horsepower and torque the equal match would be 2400 lbs 150 hp and 165 ftlb of torque. given the higher wind resistance on the Saab you could give another 300 lbs to the Eclipse. Now this is on a highway!!!!!!!. In a track like Laguna Sega, or a close turning road course--the Eclipse would win because that it has a lower center of gravity, closer gear ratio, and better g-force holding .

Answer 8

I think the Saab 9.7 will win. It has a lot more power and torque than the little eclipsee. Plus the new eclips is a heavy car. try it out in a big parking lot I bet the Saab will win. Ricers have a problem admitting that their cars are slow.

Answer 9

bench racing is just silly.

it would completely matter on about 25 zillion variables, from the aerodynamic efficiencies of both cars to the tires to the road surface to power curves to thermodynamic efficiencies to how much you and the car weigh, etc etc etc.

that doesnt even bring in by far the largest factors, such as what kind of race (road course, autocross, 1/4 mile, full mile, oval track, hill climb?, etc), or THE DRIVER.

the driver is always the deciding factor. Put a first timer in an F1 car and i can almost guarentee a pro driver in a Miata would take him on a race track. Especially considering the F1 person would stall it or kill themselves in the first lap.

and the most important point is: if youre scared to drive the car faster than you can or want to, whats the purpose of bragging about who has the faster car? A car is only as fast as 3 factors: The mechanics of it, the driver's skill, and the drivers courage. Once one of the last 2 barriers is reached, further performance is pointless, and the driver needs to get faster, not the car.

Answer 10

I bet on the Saab in the 1/4 mile.

The Eclipse might surprise you in a road race depending on the driver.

Go to your local track and find out. You probably won't be able to go head to head on the road course but lap times will tell you.