Any homosexuals offended by the 'T' in LGBT.?

Question

A question posed by my lesbian friend. She believes she is gay because God decided she should be that way. That's how He made her (this is NOT the debate here. I'm getting to the debate). She doesn't believe transexuals should be lumped in with gays and lesbians, because, according to her logic transexuals are CHANGING the way God made them, instead of accepting and embracing it as a homosexual would-- in short, telling God He made a mistake. I thought about it, and am inclined to agree with her. So the question restated-- do any homosexuals besides her feel this way? Do you wish to be seperate from the "T"?

Answer 1

This same question was posed to me by a close friend of mine. She is a lesbian, and she and her wife attended the same church I grew up in. I was very close to them when I lived at my parent's home, but have since moved into my own home with my soon to be husband (Transgender, ftm). It had taken this woman a long time to find the balance between her sexuality and her religion, as many of us who are gay and have some sort of faith (Christianity or otherwise) must do.

She asked me the same question, did I feel that my partner was going against God by being someone other than what he was born. This is what I told her:

My partner is being EXACTLY who God made him to be. I don't understand why God made him this way, no one really does. Why does He make us gay? Why does He make us anything at all? Why did He even create the world? Its religion- there are so many unanswered questions that you just have to take on faith. But God made his brain male (and yes, there have been studies done to prove that trans people's brains don't match their bodies) and made his body female. God brought us together, and if it weren't for Him, we never would have made it this far into my partner's transition. I pray to him daily thanking Him for all that he's done.

Again, I don't know why God makes transpeople, but he does. There is something He expects us to gain from the experience of a transition. When I get the message, I'll let you know. The only thing I know for certain is that He has had His hand in our lives far too much for this to be unacceptable to Him.

Answer 2

We could find all sorts of reasons/excuses to tear apart the LGBT community, but in the end all of us just lose that way. All of those groups have similar goals and enemies and I think it's best that we all stand together for the betterment of all of us. Also, many transpeople have issues with their sexuality. For example, I'm switching from pretending to be a guy to living as a woman and I'm running into the same issues as some lesbians and genderqueers trying to figure out if I'm just butch or genderqeer. Also, her reason touches on the issue of religion. The LGBT communities are very diverse in the religious backgrounds of individuals. We really can't be dividing ourselves because of religion or we're all going to be swinging from the gallows literally.

*Edit*

Here's the longer version: GLBTQQIA Gay, lesbian ,bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersexed, and allies.

Answer 3

I am not offended by the 'T' in LGBT. Instead of making a religious argument out of it, perhaps your friend is really drawing a line between the distinctive terminology for "sexual orientation" and "gender identity." You could tell your friend that believes in God that gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are created by God with their biological sexual orientation, and that the transexuals are created by God with their biological gender identity. As a gay male in the LGBT culture, I do not wish to be separate from the 'T.'

In fact, I embrace all the diversities that make up our community, and that would include those that are:lesbian, gay male, bisexual, transexual, transgendered, two-spirited, intersex, queer, questioning,and asexual people. ...or LGBTTTIQQA for short! I also embrace the "unsure" and the "straight allies" as part of our community too. The brain (plopped into our heads) that gives us our sexual orientation & gender identity was created by God, we only choose how to accessorize packaging from there. I choose to wear my packaging 'out of the closet."

Answer 4

I don't feel this way, but she is entitled to her opinion so long as she doesn't infringe on the lives and happiness of others.

My opinion however is that excluding our transgendered brothers and sisters (Male to Female or Female to Male) is discriminatory.

Some men are born with very strong feminine traits and some women with very strong masculine traits some people feel more comfortable living as the opposite gender, possibly going as far as having gender reassignment surgery, perhaps they believe that not god, but genetics made a mistake.

If you were born with a what you perceived as a medically correctable problem, take for instance poor vision would it be thwarting gods will for you to have poor eye sight by wearing glasses or telling god that he made a mistake by choosing to have laser vision correction surgery?

Answer 5

I never really use this term... it doesn't offend, I believe I have also seen longer versions of LGBT.

I believe her logic is flawed. "God decided she should be that way" is any different than anyone else, she should not feel that "transexuals are CHANGING the way God made them." God didn't make a mistake, God made transexuals that way.

Sadly, if you really look at it, I think her reasoning is quite similar that others would make assumptions with God against the LGBT community as she would make assumptions with God against the transexual community alone.

Answer 6

All I have to say, is that I'd rather not take a communal shower with a dog that wants to have sex with me, or a man that wants to have sex with me.

Homosexuality rapes the civil lifestyle that society would like to prevail. There is simply no ability to know for sure who is and who's not. There are so many increasing numbers of those who used to be man, but now are "women" and vice-versa.

I think homosexuality is the incapability to deal with life as your parents created you. Actually I believe God created you, but even if you don't and you feel your parents did so with no divine intervention, than , well, that's why I said parents.

Anyways, seeing that one is incapable of living content with what package they were born with, or whether mutilation of said body and package is what is preferred, either way, it shows a defective mental health picture of which shows me, a physician that one is in need of mental health care and not bodily mutilation, nor destroying what is known as civil "norms", and tearing down "marriage" as it was sanctified by God.

This may not be a popular opinion with the gay crowd, but I present my answer as an alternate to eliminating the judeo-Christian standards upon which this society is based. Get Help, Not Surgery. We are born complete, and even if you dont' believe in god, believe this. Bodies supposedly evolved to reproduce and survive. By choosing to not be "hetero" you are obviously giving in to what would be considered the weaker tendancies of a species by not procreating. In summation, evolution would eliminate those who are not gay since they are using their minds to further a cause their natural bodies cannot provide.
Dr. D.


please, let's have a good, thoughtful conversation without insulting one another....

Answer 7

well i really disagree but sort of agree, LGB are all sexual orientations, T is just a description of being transgendered and has nothing to do with sexual orientation, as for your friend believing its wrong to be changing the way god wanted us to live, id like for you to sit down with her and do research on XXY and XX. she will understand that no you cant live your life as a guy if you have those chromosomes, that's why some change there sexes while others surgically alter themselves to prevent the breast growth. but hey if she thinks god made us just be sure she researches KFS and MS in wikipedia.

Answer 8

I don't know a lot about it - but trans-sexuality is a recognised condition, and is certainly not the same as being a gay male, or lesbian.

They don't offend me. Why should they?

Being accepted as a lesbian can be hard sometimes - I seriously doubt I would have the strength and courage to go through what these people do.
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Answer 9

I believe Transgenders are some of he MOST BRAVE people on the planet!

Namely because of people like your "friend" there who reject them because of an irrational idea.

If God made gays/lesbians why is the concept of Transgenders so hard to grasp? They were simply born into the wrong physical body.
The truth is that pathological studies have actually shown that the majority of Transgenders actually have opposite brain make-ups than of the gender they were born into, so their being trans is actually CORRECT! Meaning, scientifically transgenders actually ARE born into the wrong physical bodies.
They weren't mean to be physically male or female and have taken the steps to CORRECT this error.

People are sometimes born with an extra appendage, is it wrong to remove it?
People are sometimes born attached to their twin, is it wrong to seperate them?
People are sometimes born with a cleft palate, is it wrong to surgically correct this?

Transgenders were born into the wrong physical gender, why is it wrong to correct this?

Answer 10

Your friend is one of those people I do not understand.Transsexuals are not changing the way they were made-they are becoming who they are and need to be. I do not and will never understand why certain members of the gay and lesbian community view them as outsiders or marginalize them, as if to say, "We count, but you don't." This is not respectful nor realisitic. ALL people deserve respect, no matter what your religious beliefs!