The REAL issue on Big Brother...?

Question

...is not just racism/bullying - these are simply side-effects of the real problem which is the fact that younger people today have absolutely no respect for others, have the worse command of the English language ever (no doubt due to text revolution, do u no wot I mean?) and the basic values in life have been lost as kids get the latest computer game/trainers etc handed to them on a plate instead of being taught the values of 'earning' these things. Isn't it interesting that it's the youngest members of the house are the ones who displayed such appalling behaviour? We need to bring back the belt, give parent's the right to choose to discipline their children as they see fit, and national service even - the young men and women of today just do not have a clue about the real world and how to conduct themselves in it. Tree-huggers who say it's wrong to slap a kid who's behaving badly are the ones doing the real damage. It's time to teach our kids that there are consequences...

BTW - I don't mean ALL young people, I know there are some good 'uns who have been brought up to use their intelligence, show respect and know the value of things. It's just that it seems these are in the minority.

Also, I am not implying we need to start beating our children, but we have lost the power to give our children the one or two slaps they should need in their life to know when they've crossed the line when all other forms of reasoning with them have failed. If we can't teach our kids this lesson, life throws them a much harder slap, as Jade is finding out...

Thanks for your comments, everyone - keep them coming!

Answer 1

National Service, bring it on. Why did they stop it?

I was disciplined with a slap and have no issues with it. I respect others and have a good work ethic.

Anyone who thinks that the youth these days are okay and should be left to do as they please, do not live in the rea world. I am constantly on my guard for idiots "thinking" they can try and rob me or hurl abuse. They soon learn otherwise!!

Answer 2

the only reason i would bring back the belt
is bcos i cannot for the life of me put any weight on.

i agree with the idea of instilling better discipline but
physical violence will surely only breed resentment and reciprocation.

there is always a chance u would then get parents carrying out happy slap attacks for each other's amusement.

i do agree that our culture is now infiltrated with violence. it is as much an integral part of our way of life as veins and arteries in the body. if u listen to a lot of r&b or rap u will realise that there is a violent and sexual undercurrent being indoctrinated into our youth. It is worse than anything ANY religion has ever done because it has slipped by almost unnoticed. having said that, i listened to a track the other day which i actually really enjoyed on the re-up. to me, the words have no effect. but on an impressionable mind they could be very unhelpful. I would dearly love to see rap and r&b artists trying to go to the other side, i.e singing against violence and introducing a little more solid love, that is brother/sister type without the sexual element and of course in a subtle way as if it is too forthright it just sounds false.

there is, i believe, a ticking timebomb at work here. i believe there are repressed racial tensions which also exist in so far as there are many who, given the chance, would be so openly racist it would be unbearable for the majority of us. the only difference nowadays is that these people go around knowing they cannot say boo to a goose. how does anyone think that makes them feel? although what jade goody did was not openly racist, i would site this as an example of exactly what i am talking about.

the punch line is that the world is becoming a more evil place and without being too religious or scarey, there is now evidence of this affecting those u would otherwise describe as civilised.

I don't care what people say about them really but u will note that there are a lot of Americans who come on here whose philosophies and ideals seem naive or even child-like. Believe me, this is not a criticism in any way at all. I find it refreshing and reassuring. I know many will hate me saying it but i think we can still learn a lot from America. They still seem to have reasonably high moral values, generally. don't forget u can't have sex until 18 and can't drink legally til 21 isn't it?? is that good or bad?? u tell me!!?
they are also at school until 18 and a lot of them go to Church.
we are talking roots level here, not political.

In direct response to what u have said, u cannot or will not change the youth of today by getting violent with them bcos the environment around them will remain the same. if u want to change the youth, there are aspects of their environment that u must address first.

Answer 3

This is not a new thing on Big Brother though. I never watched it until I lived with my partner, who likes it, so the first time I saw anything of BB was part way through the series which Pete whatsisname won. I thought the most interesting thing about the programme was the way members of the public thought it was acceptable to treat human beings. The way they gathered outside the "Big Brother House" screaming hatred at some poor silly creature who was undoubtedly no more flawed than they were themselves.

Speaking of lack of respect, this was evident in the way Grace treated Suzie, and the general view that Suzie, as a mature adult, had no place in "The House", whereas in fact she was the only interesting person there.

I don't think parents should be able to discipline their children any way they see fit though - you have to remember not all parents are loving and responsible. Some are monsters who shouldn't be able to have children. I was treated by my parents in such a way that these days they would have been charged and I would have been taken away from them. Genuine discipline where it's needed is one thing but abuse is something different. My partner was subjected to such control by his parents when he was growing up that he still lacks self-esteem and the ability to trust his own judgement. It's a far more complicated issue than many people realise.

Answer 4

You need to take a chill pill glad you are not my parent. The people in the wrong here are yes Jade Goody but also the produceres of the show and the media for hyping this up. Do not judge all young people by this fiasco. As for slapping children where does that stop.? Have you ever heard of child line? or the NSPCC

Answer 5

Well said.
Though I am a little surprised that someone of your obvious intellect actually watches such rubbish as Big Brother!
Seriously though, the difference in values in modern society is shocking. The police are figures of fun rather than fear, respect for other humans is practically non-existent and it seems that we now live in a 'me me me' society where nothing is actually earned.
I am trying to instill the meaning of right and wrong into my children but it is an uphill battle.

Answer 6

You have the right to your opinion however i disagree, as a young person i am absolutely not like those pigs in the BB house.
I also find your attitude offensive and just as ignorant as those in the programme.
Violence breeds violence but i do agree that parents need more control, saying that my wife and i wouldn't have got away with SOME young peoples behaviour with our parents so it depends on the individual parents.

Answer 7

Young people of today have no respect - what an incorrect sweeping generalisation to make.

I'm a young person and am actually quite offended by what you have stated. Not all of us get everything handed to them on a plate. I have worked for everthing I have .

I have a good command of the English language, I work for a solicitor so I have to. We are not all wastes of space and I am sick of this being portrayed.

You wonder why a lot of young people have no aspirations when you say things like that?

Answer 8

this was all blown out of proportion on purpose. it used to take all of our minds away from the more serious issue of the documentary last week called undercover mosk. it showed preachers telling kids that it was OK to kill us, and that if a 10 year old girl refuses to wear a veil, they should be beaten. this was not mentioned in Parliament, but jade goody was?

Answer 9

you've made some good points. It comes down to good manners and treating others in the way that you should like to be treated. Unfortunately today's young parents want to be 'friends' with their children and are therefore scared of disciplining them and therefore being disliked. So we end up namby-pambying our kids and buying their friendship - hence no discipline, no manners and no respect for others.

Answer 10

I totally agree with you, I now live in France and the difference between the French kids and the obnoxious British brats is truly amazing, Whats the next couple of generations going to be like!
Kno what i means like innit!