Why is the Macedonia - Greece issue not settled, can't history prove who's right?

Question

What are the world's recognized historians opinions? What are the facts saying? (Please neither Greek nor Macedonian propaganda) I want facts...

Answer 1

Read Egipt History, they haven't Greek propaganda like west, they haven't even word Greek:
http://www.touregypt.net/macdyn01.htm
Coini language who use people who claim to be Greeks are not Greek, that Language for basic have Atic language and aded Macedonian, Arabian, Aramean and Egipt words, because this facts it is too rich and have been used by whole World.Regards

Answer 2

All historians in the world agree that :

FACT 1.
In the ancient times there was no greece. In the greater area of todays greece there were independent city states with similar language, religion and traditions. They often had wars with each other however during the Olympic games (which was something holy, dedicated to their olympian gods) they always had truce. Also when there was a foreign enemy (which didnt have the same language, religion and traditions) such as Persia, they were all united against the common enemy.

FACT 2
Macedonians had the same language, religion, traditions with the rest of the hellenic city states (such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Troy etc).

FACT 3.
The first slavs that arrived in the area of macedonia came about one thousant years after the death of alexander the great.

FACT 4.
Modern Macedonia country calls its language 'Macedonian' although it is about 0% related to the ancient macedonian language and is instead about 90% related to Yugoslavian and bulgarian.

There aro so many more facts to prove the case but really FACT3 alone is enough to clear the case onece and for all.

Answer 3

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/

Answer 4

Very complicated answer and not a lot of room! I will try to give to you a small synopsis! (Quite impossible!) Among the archaeologists/historians the truth is known.
Everyone (and I mean everyone) agrees that the Ancient Macedonians were Greeks.
A). Archaeological evidence. First of all Macedonians were speaking a Greek dialect and it is very easily proved from archaeological evidence! All the inscriptions found in the Macedonia are written in Greek language. All the coins and other artifacts are written in Greek. There are no ancient monuments with a different language. The architecture and culture is typical Greek, the cities are build in the typical Greek way and the monuments that have been found in authentic Macedonia of Greece are of the best examples of Greek art. All the ancient Macedonian names mentioned in history or found on tombs are Greek. All the kings of Ancient Macedonia had Greek names.
B) The ancient Macedonians were participating in the Greeks only Olympic Games and that alone is one of the strongest evidence of how the other Greeks were accepting them as Greeks! The first one was Alexander the first (great-great-great grandfather of Alexander the great) {Alexander the first was asked (as every other Greek had to) to prove his Greek origin before participating to the Olympic Games! And Alexander proved his GREEK ORIGIN from the city of ARGOS (the Macedonians themselves claimed Argos as their origin!)
C) As I said above the ancient Macedonians were claiming descent from southern Greece; from the Greek city state of Argos.) The royal family claimed origin from demigod Hercules himself and Alexander’s mother (Olympias) claimed origin from divine Achilles. Here are some quotes (no room for all!!!) from the ancient writers about the origin of the ancient Macedonians as it was said by the Macedonians themselves!!
"It is agreed on by all hands, that on the father's side, Alexander descended from Hercules by Caranus, and from Aeacus by Neoptolemus on the mother's side"
(Plutarch, The Life of Alexander)
“Now that the men of this family are Greeks, sprung from Perdiccas, as they themselves affirm, is a thing which I can declare on my own knowledge, and which I will hereafter make plainly evident. That they are so has been already adjudged by those who manage the Pan-Hellenic contest at Olympia" (Herodotus, The Histories 8.43)
"… But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, that I (Alexander) imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, the divine author and progenitor of my family, and desire that victorious Greeks should dance again in India and revive the memory of the Bacchic revels among the savage mountain tribes beyond the Kaukasos...' " (Plutarchos, On the Fortune of Alexander, 332 a-b)
(And hundreds more. Not enough room to mention them all!!!!!)
D) Every respectful scholar agrees that ancient Macedonians were Greeks. Very, very few are still skeptic of how pure Greeks they were! No one claims that they were not at all Greeks!!! Even the Slav-Macedonian archeologists from the modern (Slavic/Albanian) republic agree that they were Greeks!!!!
\Nicholas G. L. Hammond, ‘Philip of Macedon’ Duckworth Publishing, February 1998
"Philip was born a Greek of the most aristocratic, indeed of divine, descent... Philip was both a Greek and a Macedonian, even as Demosthenes was a Greek and an Athenian...The Macedonians over whom Philip was to rule were an outlying family member of the Greek-speaking peoples." And "What language did these `Macedones' speak? The name itself is Greek in root and in ethnic termination. It probably means `highlanders', and it is comparable to Greek tribal names such as `Orestai' and `Oreitai', meaning 'mountain-men'. A reputedly earlier variant, `Maketai', has the same root, which means `high', as in the Greek adjective makednos or the noun mekos. The genealogy of eponymous ancestors which Hesiod recorded [.] has a bearing on the question of Greek speech. First, Hesiod made Macedon a brother of Magnes; as we know from inscriptions that the Magnetes spoke the Aeolic dialect of the Greek language, we have a predisposition to suppose that the Macedones spoke the Aeolic dialect. Secondly, Hesiod made Macedon and Magnes first cousins of Hellen's three sons - Dorus, Xouthus, and Aeolus-who were the founders of three dialects of Greek speech, namely Doric, Ionic, and Aeolic. Hesiod would not have recorded this relationship, unless he had believed, probably in the seventh century that the Macedones were a Greek speaking people. The next evidence comes from Persia. At the turn of the sixth century the Persians described the tribute-paying peoples of their province in Europe, and one of them was the `yauna takabara', which meant `Greeks wearing the hat'. There were Greeks in Greek city-states here and there in the province, but they were of various origins and not distinguished by a common hat. However, the Macedonians wore a distinctive hat, the kausia. We conclude that the Persians believed the Macedonians to be speakers of Greek. (N.G.L. Hammond, The Macedonian State, p.12-13
\And Malcolm Errington, ‘A History of Macedonia’ (University of California Press, February 1993, pg 3) "That the Macedonians and their kings did in fact speak a dialect of Greek and bore Greek names may be regarded nowadays as certain." And “Ancient allegations that the Macedonians were non-Greeks all had their origin in Athens at the time of the struggle with Philip II. Then as now, political struggle created the prejudice. The orator Aeschines once even found it necessary, …, to defend Philip on this issue and describe him at a meeting of the Athenian Popular Assembly as being 'Entirely Greek'. ….their fundamental Greek nationality was never doubted. " And even Eugene Borza who at first was not sure if the ancient Macedonians were pure Greeks he is know clearly convinced!!!!!! “ Eugene N. Borza, ‘Makedonika’ Regina Books, Claremont CA "Our understanding of the Macedonians' emergence into history is confounded by two events: the establishment of the Macedonians as an identifiable ethnic group, and the foundation of their ruling house. The "HIGHLANDERS" or "MAKEDONES" of the mountainous regions of western Macedonia ARE DERIVED FROM NORTHWEST GREEK STOCK; THEY WERE AKIN BOTH TO THOSE WHO AT AN EARLIER TIME MAY HAVE MIGRATED SOUTH TO BECOME THE HISTORICAL "DORIANS", and to other Pindus tribes who were the ancestors of the Epirotes or Molossians. That is, we may suggest that NORTHWEST GREECE PROVIDED A POOL OF INDO-EUROPEAN SPEAKERS OF PROTO-GREEK from which were drawn the tribes who later were known by different names as they established their regional identities in separate parts of the country." And "First, the matter of the Greek origins of the Macedonians: Nicholas Hammond's general conclusion (though not the details of his arguments)that the origin of the Macedonians lies in the pool of proto-Greek speakers who migrated out of the Pindus mountains during the Iron Age, is acceptable."
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Answer 5

a problem with greece can not be solved....never