How is this for pro-choice?

Question

We all have the choice in life to either work hard and be productive members of society or not. If we choose to be so, then we get goods jobs and health insurance and all the goodies we want from our hard work. If you choose not to become so, then you have chosen to take what you can get and you should not have the perks of someone who chooses to succeed.

Anyone else agree. So maybe I am pro-choice. I choose to succeed and I also choose to use condoms. Easy right?

Abby, sorry, I am all about pro-life, I guess that last sentence came out wrong.

Answer 1

A real citizen (not just someone who happens to live here) does not steal from the rest of us...I am Liberal, I have developed my skills over 25 years and have a good job, I am not material though and have chosen a decent work environment and a small town lifestyle over the higher pay with a hectic city lifestyle. I earned this, it was not given to me. I don't like cheaters and that includes the woman who lies to get a check from the government, the politician who takes a bribe and the company owner who hires illegals and cheats on his taxes.

The people who do not contribute to our society, pay their taxes that are due, make the decision to be lazy and go on the dole, and commit other crimes are not citizens...and to an extent you can add those who do not vote and serve on juries...Yes, it's all about choosing to be a citizen....no matter your political views

Answer 2

The hard work scenario is falling apart. The Airline employees are a good example. An Air force pilot gets a job flying United. Flies 20 years works hard a good company man. Retires early because of FAA rules and has to wait 10 years for his Social security. Mean while United gives all the executives a raise dumps the pension plan and leaves the pilots hanging.

And Yes I know them I worked at SFO for years.

Many Corporations are raiding the pension funds because Faux Democrat Clinton deregulated the SEC.

Pro choice is great if you make healthy choices like get a better zipper. Or don't fornicate with losers.

Go big Red Go

Answer 3

So you're patting yourself on the back because you have a job?
Almost everybody has a job or business.

Look in the mirror. You're white. Thats a start. You're well educated judging by your writing. Thats a big step up. And i'll venture a guess that you have no kids. That's a real big step up.

What you're doing is trying to promote the old myth about welfare recipients being somehow immoral as far as a work ethic.

Why don't you do a survey, and find all the well educated, childless, white women that are on welfare.

Answer 4

In an ideal world I would agree with you. But we do not live in an ideal world--and the reality is that our society (and its no exception--most others are worse) creates barriers that make the notion of choice a hollow mockery.

When a child lives in a neighborhood with a good school--and thus is able through hard work able to get into college, we commend him/her--and so we should. But can you sit there and say thhe child who goes to a rat-inested, underfunded school wihere the education is inferior has an equal chance?

And what of the people--because of the color of their skin, their ethnicity are denied jobs by bigots? Have they received an equal opportunity?

No--its not as simple as you would like it to be. I don't know if you are a Christian--but whether you are or not, her's something to think about:

The New Testament describes Christ's comments on the following scene: a poor woman goes into the Temple--giving her offering (a tiny sum, but all she could afford) and prays "God, be merciful to me, a sinner." At the same time a Pharisee--one of the rich and influential people--enters and makes his offering (a fair sum) and prays"Lord, I want to thank you that I am not like this worthless woman (referring to the poor woman praying).

Christ said that in His view the poor woman had given more than the Pharisee--because her offering came from the heart--and would be rewarded in heaven. The Pharisee would receive no reward--he'd alread had his reward in the adulation of people around him.

You need to recognize that this world is NOT a level playing field--and many people do not have the same choices you have been given. Priding yourself on your accomplishments and pretending tey show you are better than others does you no credit--it merley shows you to be a Pharisee.

Answer 5

You couldn't be more right. Our government gives to much to those who chose to be lazy and leach of off the hard working citizens in this country. I'm not saying that some people need a helping hand once in a while but our social services and welfare system is a joke and needs to be fixed. Maybe if we just get rid of all the social services all together for a while then more people would get off their lazy behinds and become productive citizens.

Answer 6

So maybe I am pro-choice. I choose to succeed and I also choose to use condoms. Easy right?


sounds like the confession of a Vegas call-girl.

Answer 7

Sway, your posts always amuse me in some way or another.

Do you feel any newer laws enacted and signed by present administration regarding tax-benefits for, and also taxation therefrom, via provider, both in regards to the entities having self-paid private insurance for themselves, or those providing such coverage, will later be integrated into a more National scope of coverage through this measure? Sort of a meshing process?

Answer 8

And the health insurance you get through your job-Bush will tax(listen to his state of the union address). He'll say loudly that he wants to give tax breaks for private insurance and more quietly that insurance benefits given you by your employer will be taxed.Are you pro-choice there too? I suppose you'll choose to get old...

Answer 9

Condoms are great but if you end up pregnant, what you're advocating by saying you're "pro-choice" is that you're "pro-letting people choose the murder of a fetus and potential human life." I ABSOLUTELY agree with what you said in the first paragraph, but to choose to succeed means preventing unwanted pregnancy in the first place, not "choosing" to cover a mistake by unethical means.

Answer 10

I applaud you taking steps to try and prevent pregnancy.

Which is more responsible - prevent pregnancy, because 99.9 % understand sex gets you pregnant, or just throw away the human life because you don't feel like being responsible, accountable for your own actions, or just plain inconvenienced.

Before you get started with a rebuttal, just remember all the babies that end up in garbage bins or elsewhereand are left to die. Same mental attitude at work here - non-accountability for one's own actions.

So - choices are: to be responsible, think of possible consequences of your actions, and be willing to be held accountable for them.