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Not having any luck finding any online, let alone in 'real life' where we live.

Hey, even if you're not into it, at the very least answer something semi-thoughtful and get yourself 2 points!

2007-01-19 11:36:31 · 6 answers · asked by Rapunzel XVIII 5 in Society & Culture Mythology & Folklore

Well now of course I've seen many websites and such on the subject! And I'm on several good old Yahoo groups regarding the subjects. Was looking more for real live people *online, whatever* to converse with...

2007-01-19 12:41:14 · update #1

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Actually I do have a background in ceremonial magic and have been recently studying Chaos magic. Try Liber Null & Psychonaut by Peter J. Carroll or LIber Kaos by that same author, for more information on Chaos magic principles and theory.

As for finding any in your area, check at your local Occult or metaphysical book store, they should be able to put you in contact with someone involved in Ceremonial magic, if not Chaos magic.

2007-01-19 12:32:41 · answer #1 · answered by kveldulf_gondlir 6 · 1 0

a little too Jewish for me but I respect it tremendously. It is a difficult and restrictive path.

Ceremonial Magic is a method of doing magic. It historically uses the religion of those practicing it. As a result, Magic in Europe in the Renaissance was strongly Christian. Today Ceremonial Magic is often Hermetic and uses a mix of Greco-Egyptian and Judeo-Christian Symbolism

It requires a detailed knowledge of self and of the Cosmology used. As practiced today, it requires a great deal of study and practice. The Ceremonial Magician should always know precisely what is being done in any ritual and why.

QBL (or as it is often spelled Qabbalah) is the primary cosmology of modern practitioners. QBL was originally an attempt to find Mystical Truths hidden in the Torah. Its goal was to illuminate God and the relationship man has or should have with the Divine. The two primary streams of study are Mystical (associated with Sephardic Jewish practice) and Magical (associated with Ashkenazic Jewish practice).

Today QBL is often viewed as a `filing’ system. This approach uses a diagram known as the Tree of Life. The Tree of Life represents the relationships of the numbers 1 through 10 and of the Hebrew letters that connect them. The numbers and letters total 32 `paths’. These paths can be used to describe anything that can be imagined. 777 published by Crowley is an example of this approach. To do a ritual the magician decides what is needed, refers to the appropriate line of symbols and correspondences, and by using as many of these as possible is calls the desired result into existence.


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2007-01-19 21:08:09 · answer #2 · answered by cubcowboysgirl 5 · 0 0

As far a chaos goes have you checked in to the principia discordia online, children ov psychic youth, austin osman spare, church of the subgenius, peter carroll, phile hine, T.A.Z.? there is a metric crapload of resources online...I would say that you haven't been looking hard enough, or you failed to consult with your pineal gland...

don't forget to do that every now and again, your pineal gland needs you...

(serious chaos magicians made me chuckle there for a minute)

as for ceremonialists... how about the golden dawn, (N.R.O.O.G.D.or the H.O.G.D.) did you look under thelemic, Aliester Crowley, Theosophists, O.T.O., S.L.Magregor Mathers, John Dee, or even better check here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/index.htm

And here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/index.htm

or even here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/nec/index.htm

as far as networking goes, have you tried witches meetup or even witchvox http://www.witchvox.com/xvn.html
that is witchvox's networking page. Most cities have a lodge or two for the OTO & Golden Dawn. Check the artist community, or commune, or go to their website, for info about groups in your nearest city.

the very nature of chaos mages, and the culture in which they thrive, is pretty much void of structure, not that you won't find groups out there, its just they can be difficult to locate, as they don't have a central networking site, you could try your local goth club or raves...know what to look for...talk to the right people and sooner or later you find yourself in the middle of a huge scene that you didn't even know existed...

The nature of chaos

2007-01-19 20:27:07 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I am a Celtic Pagan, that puts me far from Ceramonial or Chaos magic.

2007-01-19 21:23:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Chaos magician? Nah, but I'm a paladin with eighteen carisma and ninety-seven hit points. I can use my Helm of Disintegration and do 1D4 damage as my Half-Elf Mage wields his +5 Holy Avenger.

2007-01-19 19:45:31 · answer #5 · answered by Dethruhate 5 · 0 2

Huh? There are many Chaos websites I've found, and groups you can join. Keep searching!

2007-01-19 19:39:38 · answer #6 · answered by INDRAG? 6 · 0 1

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