Should renunciation of Islam be a prerequisite for entry into the United States?

Question

We already bar people with a criminal record or membership in certain proscribed organizations. Wouldn't the prudent course of action be to deny entry to a group of people who are over-represented among terrorists?

Chris: I assure you I'm not joking. Muslims are a boil on the posterior of the world which needs to be lanced.

Steve: That tiny subset of Muslims who are not terrorists themselves tacitly support those who are. When was the last time you heard a denunciation of terror perpetrated in their names by common Muslims?

Mike R: When was the last time you heard about Jews flying planes into buildings?

Iraqisax: Islam and terrorism are synonymous. I'm sorry you disagree, but facts are facts.

Diogenese: Germans don't fly planes into buildings, Frenchmen don't try people for the capital offense of converting to another religion, Brits don't much go in for punishment rapes, etc...

Only adherents of the "religion of peace" do these things.

Sharkzfin: There IS no "seperation clause". Please show me such a thing in the US Constitution.

BTW, do you believe that freedom of religion is more important than continued survival?

Mark: now that you mention it, although I'm a Catholic, I AM a Zionist. There are few people (Jewish or not) who support Israel as vociferously as do I. Most Jews are civilized. Most Muslims are not.

rat: no, I do not.

Dylis: the better analogy would be if you had said, "Deport all militia members because of McVeigh." McVeigh didn't act out of religious fealty, but out of a hatred of the federal government. Muslim terrorists don't act in spite of Islam, but BECAUSE of it.

Moltar: that's a good place to start, but why set ourselves up to be attacked? They use our own freedoms against us. Only a fool would continue to allow that to happen.

Answer 1

The only problem with the idea is that renunciation could be insincere, and merely the bogus means to gain entry and kill/subvert/etc...

For the answerers that harp about McVeigh and so on, well, he had plenty of help from Ramsi Yusef and other middle eastern/Iraqi agents. He sympathized with Saddam Hussein--all of this is well documented by Jayna Davis' book, "The Third Terrorist."

Islamic terrorism is an epidemic throughout the world, yet Muslim apologists and ignorant Western liberals complain about "profiling"...hmmm.....if some Lithuanian guy in the Bronx goes apeshit and murders his girlfriend with a crossbow, does the NYPD suddenly focus a huge chunk of its resources on detecting people who might kill with crossbows?

PROFILING IS ALWAYS FOR GOOD REASON. NOONE WANTS TO WASTE VALUABLE RESOURCES!!

I like your style...you answered one of mine, and after I browsed yours I am encouraged that there may be hope for this country after all...if there are enough of us so-called "bigots." :)

"Bigotry" is the only hope of salvaging what's left of Americana; of true liberty, property rights, and freedom of association/expression.

Answer 2

In this country we are guarenteed freedom of religion by the first amendment of the Constitution, so the answer is no. This would be against everything this country was founded for.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" direct quote from the first Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, there is more information on the legal interpertation of this amendment at the findlaw website link below. Read up and learn.

Some Muslims are terrorists so all Muslims are terrorists = overgenalization (a logical fallacy) NOT FACT moron.

Answer 3

Are you equating Islam with terrorism? Do you think that there are over a billion terrorists on the earth?

I think that it would be prudent to deport anyone who does not agree with the Bill of Rights - specifically the First Amendment: Freedom of Religion. You sound like a neo-con.

We Conservatives believe in the Constitution. People can worship as they choose. They can say what they want. They have the right to keep and bear arms.

I know that this is scary stuff. Everybody can't handle freedom.

Answer 4

That would be a very direct violation of the Constitution's call for no State sponsored Religion!
However, in light of questionable loyalties, Soldiers have no protection whatsoever about being routinely Polygraphed-we would just have to do it to everybody!

Added--Rick N-Do you know what the "Paradox of Islam" is?

The Paradox is that the Religion of Peace was forced to issue belligerent Fatwas to try to annihilate the Schism of the Shia breakaway. The Irony of it all, is that the Iranian Theocracy has now perverted the same fatwas against groups they were not intended to be used against. This was also facilitated by the Crusades, where the Fatwas were again turned in defense against the aggressors!

Answer 5

the united states is a us of a based on the assumption of separation of church and state. human beings have the ultimate to hold any faith they want or to disbelieve in God. Prohibiting Muslims from turning out to be electorate may be completely un-American and a flagrant violation of the form. although, at the instant, that doesn't relatively count quantity to all and sundry, using fact the shortcoming of concern over the legalization of torture and the abolition of the bill of Rights in many situations shows.

Answer 6

No. We have a right to worship as we see fit in this country. To force someone to renounce their beliefs would be tantamount to creating a state endorsed religion, which would violate the separation clause.

Just because one group of people has what you consider to be an inordinate number of members involved in an activity, it does not mean you should condemn all members of that group. If you do, how far do you take it? What would be left of our society, or any society for that matter. To condemn based on the actions of the few would ultimately result in anarchy and total chaos.

Answer 7

You state you are Catholic. Have you asked your priest this question? I think renunciation of Islam as a prerequisite for entry into the United States would go against everything America stands for, and I consider myself a middle to conservative. Between taking away freedom of religion or survival....
"Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

Answer 8

Nope...

Just because most terrorist are Islamic extremists does not mean that most followers of Islam are terrorists.

For example...most prisoners in America are black males, but most black males in America are not prisoners.

We need to stop the stereotypes and judge individual people for who they are.

Answer 9

No, but what about an agreement to uphold the US Constitution above Sharia Law?

Answer 10

Sure, and while we are at it let's ban the French because they like cheese, The British because they drink their beer warm, the Germans because they wear funny laderhosen, the Greeks because they break plate when they celebrate; come to think of it, let's ban everyone because none of them are as good as us. Then we can all sit at home and watch American Idol and not have to worry about someone insulting our intelligence.