Why do both Dems and Repubs abuse the constitution every chance they get?

Question

Shouldn't we give someone else a chance to ruin our lives? We all know power corrupts, so lets hear some good stuff...

Answer 1

Long answer, but worth the read.

They abuse the Constitution because we don't stop them, and because it is in the interests of those who got them elected. No, I don't mean "the people", I mean the power brokers who operate behind the scenes, for whom the whole system of government is a means for gaining and maintaining influence, power, and money.

The puppet masters discovered that they could ensure we would not revolt again over the government having too much power. They do this in several ways.
1. Empty Rhetoric -- Public proclamations of how free we are and how this government is just as much "of the people, for the people, and by the people" as the one established by the founding fathers. This deceit obscures the need for revolt and suppresses the outrage necessary to precipitate one.

2. Disarmament -- The peoples' republics of Massachusetts and California (among others) have extremist gun control laws that essentially reduce the right to bear arms to "the right to kiss the posterior of the local police chief and hope like crazy he exercises his unilateral and unfettered discretion to issue you a license to carry". Weaponless people cannot revolt effectively.

3. The adminstrative and regulatory jungle -- With more acronyms for all of the state and federal agencies, boards, commissions, departments than you could spell out with an whole pallet of Alpha-Bits, there are more laws and rules on the books than you can possibly obey. The laws are not there to be obeyed or complied with, they are there to give the government (or the puppet masters who control them) the power to "get" anyone who needs to be "got", via prosecutorial discretion. It also permits a perpetual inference of guilt over laws one breaks but for which s/he is not prosecuted. Discouraged, oppressed, guilt-ridden and downtrodden people are less likely to revolt.

4. The expansion of the commerce power. Ever since Wickard v. Filburn, which expanded Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce to matters which were neither interstate NOR commerce, Congress has justified its overregulation primarily on the basis of the commerce power. A peaceful and law-abiding people will try to comply with laws even when the laws are unfair, ill-conceived, unequally enforced or applied, and against the interests of liberty, not realizing that compliance is useless.

Bottom line: unarmed, guilty, discouraged, deceived people who prefer peace, law, and order and would like to think of themselves as law-abiding will suffer unreasonable overregulation instead of revolting if they think they might achieve their objectives in any way other than an open revolt.

Recipe for change? Constitutional Amendments

A. Congressional term limits: 8 years or 2 terms, whichever comes first, and aggregates the time in both the House & Senate.

B. Sunset requirement: all legislation expires some certain term after it becomes law, somewhere between 5-7 years. It can be reintroduced, but MUST be reintroduced in order to go beyond the sunset date. Similarly, all agencies cease to exist some years (5-9) after their formation and can be re-created or re-formed, but must we re-created in order to exist beyond the sunset deadline.

C. Congressional Transparency: All lobbyist contact & activity must be disclosed and explained, as must all vote trading between legislators. No voice voting, and every vote on every bill must be explained in writing under the pains and penalties of perjury. Violation punishable by minimum 10 year prison term plus restitution.

D. Due process in admin law: Requires timely responses to filings, a timely and meaningful appeal process, and reverses the burden on permit filings (asking for permit means you get it unless the government can show compelling reason why you shouldn't get it). Provides immediate review in Federal Court and govt pays all legal fees if it loses in court.

Until we do these things in some fashion, we will not have the freedom the founders intended, but only the illusion of freedom. Pubblies more likely to lean this way than Dems, Libertarians more likely than Pubblies.

Note that I do not advocate the overthrow of the government by force or violence, I am merely pointing out that by ruling out such an overthrow, we empower and embolden our oppressors.

Answer 2

Remember, they were human before they chose a political party. You can create a new party each election and it will eventually become as corrupt and the previous. It is all about money!

It is easy for them to abuse the Constitution since the average citizen does not have a concept, clue or care as to how the document works. You can stick a Libertarian of Independant in the White House and things will be the same. Politics is politics even when its politics.

Answer 3

Although it is not a good idea to think all party members agree with everyone else in the party, there are some parts of the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights, that are inconvenient to both parties, liberal and conservative.

I'm not going to quote the Amendments, you can look them up for yourself. But the Democrats (some, not all) have problems with the 2nd, 9th, and 10th. The Republicans (some, not all) just can't deal with the 1st, 4th, and 5th.

I will be happy to discuss this with anyone who disagrees and offers a sane and rational argument.

Answer 4

we are stuck with two parties because of an outdated system. sadly most people feel their party is right,it comes from treating politics like a sporting event. truth is dems and repubs are being controlled by corporations and lobbyists,not the people.

Answer 5

I dont know which is the lesser of the two evils and I do mean evil . I personally support the republicans at least they are supposed to be for lower spending, smaller government and lower taxes that kind of rhetoric speaks to me as a tax paying citizen.

Answer 6

that would want to surely be a merger of the great crust (paid for) Republicans and Democrats right into a unmarried Globalist / Collectivist / Anti-structure celebration... all the dissenters and awakened former Republicrats might want to connect the waiting throng of libertarians and anti-conflict activists in the recent Anti-Globalist / Individualist / professional-structure celebration. i love this idea. If we only referred to as issues what they are, human beings might want to in no way be fooled into balloting for his or her own lack of life. human beings couldn't be fooled into assisting a celebration they disagree with, because the different one is even extra distasteful... And the entire scam might want to fall aside. it truly is one in all those "and perchance monkeys will fly out of my butt" eventualities....

Answer 7

The American people, allow it to happen.