surprisingly ( and nostradamically) enough, right around 1984. after spending 100s of billions on sdi to bankrupt russia, the politicians figured out they could use much of the same technology to eviserate the bill of rights and make their wealthy corporate friends wealthier. it will end when the computers take over the world and turn us all into eloi's for their mutant, giant cockaroach allies. figuring, even with artificial intelligence, they're still way ahead of most of humanity.
2007-01-19 03:51:26
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answered by rick m 6
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I've read 1984 more times than I can count. I see no similarities between it and what's occurring currently at ALL.
One has to REALLY be reaching in order to see it.
1. The wiretapping is not "unlimited." It is only of international calls, not from state to state, or in-state calls.
2. The world has only been at peace once, and it didn't last very long. Perpetual war means nothing. Every country has always been at war with SOMEONE.
3. Every country employs some sort of surveillance on its citizens (the actual amount of citizens being watched varies from country to country) for one reason or another. The fact that the US uses it means nothing.
Police state? Every country is a "police state" in one form or another. But as long as we're not all under ONE government, it's still okay. The only way to ensure that we're not under some kind of "police state" is to have anarchy. That doesn't work very well.
2007-01-19 11:24:03
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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George Orwell merely extended a trend that had begun before he was born. The path to US imperialism, which is what Oceania represents in the book, began when the Rothschild bankers schemed to trigger the American Civil War by inflaming moral outrage over slavery.
Slavery, which had been in existence since before civilization arose 6000 years ago, suddenly became the litmus test of civilized society - why? Because the Rothschilds' hired agents made it so.
Why did they do it? America was free, proud, strong, independent... and the Jewish bankers didn't want anybody who wasn't Jewish to be free, strong, proud, and indpendent. So they conspired to entrap the United States into their snare of debt-based financial system, and the route they went took Americans directly into their Civil War.
That's how Orwell's totalitarian nightmare in "1984" began coming true in real life.
Of course, it has not yet gone quite so far as Orwell foresaw, but by 2006 it had halved the distance from 1986. And you do already have responsive reactions to certain dissident opinions that can be compared with the "two-minutes hate": you just don't call it that.
Answerer farkas419 must not be familiar with the behavior of the US government. US federal policemen have been murdering Americans, sometimes en masse, since about 1980.
In 1983, US Marshals attempted to murder Gordon Kahl in an ambush, missed him, and wounded his son Yori Kahl with their rifles. Gordon, using his own rifle, fired back and outfought them, killing two, and forced the others to retreat.
They caught up with Gordon Kahl again three months later. US Marshals, supported by the FBI and the Delta Force, captured Gordon Kahl in a house in Arkansas. They tortured him by breaking his bones with their rifle butts, chopped off his hands and feet with an axe, and finally shot him in the head. Then they tried to conceal their work by pouring gasoline down the chimney to burn the house down.
Then, of course, there was the FBI's murder of Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. There is the beating of Vince Bertolini, also in Idaho. There's the mass murder of 83 Christians (including 17 children) inside their church building at Waco, Texas.
And some believe that the US government staged the airplane collisions on the WTC towers in order to obscure the fact that they were really brought down with demolition explosives.
I mean, really, how much evidence does farkas419 require? Does she need to know that the US government "breaks" prisoners for interrogation by employing homosexual rapists? Or that political criminals are sent off to secret concentration camps for torture and denied access to legal representation? What is it that's still missing, farkas419?
2007-01-19 11:33:17
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answered by Anonymous
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1984 started when the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki were dropped.
It won't ever end until humans understand that everyone is inextricably connected to the world and everyone else.
2007-01-25 21:24:15
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answered by King Ebeneezer 3
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Bearing in mind that it was written in the mid '40's published in 1948 and was really about what the world would have been like if Hitler and Stalin had won WW2 in '45 we were safe in the short term, but if the long-term evolution of politics and technology takes us there anyway...
NB: Hitler tried to make pacts w. Stalin and the King of England
2007-01-19 11:28:30
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answered by Anonymous
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People were declaring the same crap about Orwell back in the actual YEAR OF 1984....linking it all to Reagan! By the LEFT, of course!
2007-01-19 11:30:59
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answered by bradxschuman 6
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I just was researching last night and someone said if we don't start expressing our feelings about freedom the NewWorldOrder will take over. They are preparing and are being directed by the 1-Bilderbergs which include nazis and federalreserve, and super rich like GM, MrKissinger, Shell-Texaco you can look it up.
2007-01-19 11:31:25
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answered by spareo1 4
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It has already started. Haven't you noticed?
When will it end? Frederick Douglass said the limits of oppression are the limits of tolerance of it by the people.
2007-01-19 11:24:44
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answered by Anonymous
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At time of death.
2007-01-26 22:41:59
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answered by m c 5
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You can see it all around you if you open your eyes.
2007-01-25 13:56:18
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answered by robert m 7
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