"Failed second wave of UK bombings not a "copycat" attack, but planned well in advance: chief prosecutor
And if the attacks were as carefully planned as the evidence indicates, who may have recruited, funded, and trained the bombers? "Militants plotted second wave of UK bombs, court told," by Michael Holden for Reuters:
LONDON (Reuters) - An Islamist cell tried to carry out suicide bombings on London's transport system just two weeks after attacks that killed 52 people and wounded about 700, a prosecutor said on Monday.
The "extremist Muslim plot" was not a hastily arranged copycat scheme but a long-planned operation, chief prosecutor Nigel Sweeney said as six British men went on trial over the failed attacks of July 21, 2005.
He said the attackers aimed to cause maximum injury by detonating home-made bombs packed with metal, which they carried in rucksacks onto the public transport system.
"It was simply the good fortune of the traveling public that they were spared," Sweeney told the court.
The targets -- three underground trains and a bus -- echoed those in the deadly attacks by four young British Muslims who blew themselves up in London two weeks earlier, on July 7, 2005.
The failed second set of attacks caused panic and triggered a huge manhunt, leaving Londoners unclear if they were a botched and quickly assembled attempt to imitate the original carnage.
But Sweeney told the high-security Woolwich Crown Court: "The evidence in this case shows that this conspiracy had been in existence long before the events of July 7."
The six men are all originally from Africa and in their 20s.
Sweeney said the 9th-floor flat of defendant Yassin Hassin Omar in north London was the bomb-making factory. The detonator was triacetone triperoxide (TATP) and the main charge was held in buckets surrounded by screws, tacks, washers and nuts.
"The purpose is, of course, to increase fragmentation when the bomb explodes and maximize the possibility of injury, fatal or otherwise, to those in the vicinity," Sweeney told the court.
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Sweeney said the 5 kg (11 lb) bombs were made of hydrogen peroxide, nail varnish and flour used to make chapatis, or unleavened bread. They were carried in rucksacks with wires connected to the detonators hidden under clothing.
He said that between May 9 and July 5, the group bought 442 liters of hydrogen peroxide. One supplier sold them 218 liters, nearly half of its total sales of the chemical in that period.
Sweeney said four of the defendants successfully fired their TATP detonators but the main charge failed to explode, possibly because the proportion of hydrogen peroxide was not quite right.
TATP is an explosive chemical which can be made from commonly available household products. Nicknamed "Mother of Satan," it is highly volatile and liable to explode prematurely if subjected to friction, impact or change of temperature.
All the main suspects on trial were apprehended just over a week after the failed attacks.
Muktah Said Ibrahim, Manfo Kwaku Asiedu, Hussein Osman, Yassin Hassin Omar, Ramzi Mohammed and Adel Yahya are all charged with conspiracy to murder. They deny the charges.
The prosecutor said Osman had told police after being arrested in Italy that the bombings were a deliberate hoax to make a political point. Sweeney rejected the "hoax" defense.
Sweeney said Mohammed was seen trying to set off his bomb facing a woman with a pushchair and was wearing a top with New York on it, "no doubt connected with the events of 9/11."
He said home-made films featuring images of beheadings of Western hostages and other attacks, including those on September 11 in New York, were found in two of the defendants' flats.
They are also accused of "conspiracy to cause explosions likely to endanger life or cause serious injury to property."
2007-01-18 03:41:12
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answered by SockPuppets 2
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Well seems some things are in status quo. Ok, they say in the USA you are not supposed to do profiling. But it seems 99% of the time the terrorist muslim looks like an Arab. There is always an exception, but certain incidents you can profile. Hatred of a race is usually profiling and the race is a minority. Just let some terrorists come again and start bombing in Britian or the USA and the hatred will go up again. I am still looking for the blonde, blue eyed muslin terrorist. The average citizen is scared of others that are not like themselves. Fear of the unknown, Human nature.
2007-01-18 03:40:33
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answered by Big C 6
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the most racially intolerant group in Britian today is the asian muslim. All the white bleeding hearts and lib left loonies will be reaching for the smelling salts now or screaming liar. Denial is their mantra. Civil liberty groups are almost completely one-sided. But the fact remains, British muslims are responsible for more racial hatred than all the other races put together. When newspaper reports state there is an increase in racially motivated crimes and an increase, say, against attacks on jews, what they are asked not to do is report exactly who are carrying out these attacks - asians, specifically muslim. This is no longer a white domain, and for some time.
2007-01-18 04:47:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Hi,
Hold on a tad Dick.
Brits are not generally racist.
I personally have many Muslim freinds, although being a white Brit. And actually, I get on socially much better than with bigoted Brits I have lived & worked, like you, in Muslim Countries, had a fine time both at work & socially, so I feel connected to the beleifs & culture.
Please do not tar us all with the same brush.
When you say things along the lines of "you Brits", I am somewhat offended.
OK there is many a tale of racist behaviour, which is high-lighted in the media, but most of of us live together in peace & harmony.
May I mention segragation in the USA, and the black riots ?
Preace to all, even misguided Yanks.
Bob.
2007-01-18 04:05:27
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answered by Bob the Boat 6
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i don't think there is as you put it "a strong hatred of the Muslims" in Britain, i live here and most of these folk fit in well and have their own business and work in respectable employment. I think the ones you refer to are the ones that don't want to adopt our ways(when in Rome) and the other ones that want to commit mayhem and those are the ones that make it difficult for the good people who have made their homes here and are British first as your black people are in USA!!and yes we do see the one sided media and all its brainwashing tactics and its turning this country into a place which is making people leave the UK to live in your country for instance but mostly to Spain and Oz.//and Jon V the Americans are always welcome what have you got against them
2007-01-18 03:52:13
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answered by srracvuee 7
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I used to like Muslims, or at least I never had an opinion, they were just people, until recently that is ! Undercover cameras going into Mosques and filming their leaders telling them all that we are all " scum" and deserve death is not going to do them any favours !
I have young children, and the way they talk about all of us, I take that as a personal attack on my kids, as far as I'm concerned they want to kill my babies, and my friend's babies, and we are all kind, loving people who wish no harm to anyone !
That's fighting talk, and all I say is " bring it on " !! I know they don't all feel that way, but the majority of them do, so if it's a case of them or us, well, I choose my kids ( obviously) every time !
they should blame themselves for all the hatred, they started it all.
2007-01-21 01:08:44
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answered by Paris69 4
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What do you mean come on guys?
I know there is a lot of propaganda going on in the news, as well as the fact that sensation sells papers (nowhere more so than in the UK), but have you ever watched FOX News??? If you ask me, that's 10,000 times more biased than news in the UK
(I'm not even british. I've just been living in london for 2 years)
I do find a very large proportion of british people to be extremely xenophobic, however. I know there are xenophobes everywhere, it's just that there seem to be more of them here.
For an example of what I mean, look at Rach's turn of phrase (above) "talking in some queer foreign language". There are a lot of english who seem to look down their noses as somehow inferior or dodgey anything that is "foreign" - another word that seem to be used a lot by the xenophobes.
Look at celebrity big brother at the moment, with the Bollywood star, Shilpa Shetty copping the brunt of exactly what i'm talking about. Jade's mum pretending she couldn't pronounce Shilpa's "queer" foreign name, calling her "shoopy" and "the indian" and asking if she lived in a house or a shack.
2007-01-18 03:41:03
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answered by cgibbinsuk 2
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i don't think that it's particularly racial to say that we're scared of muslims now, it's just unfortunate stereotyping for them - the bad muslims are in the media so we think that all muslims are bad. if there was a muslim on your plane talking in some queer foreign language would you not even be a tiny bit scared?
it's like stereotyping teenagers as trouble makers, some are really nice but we always hear about those who aren't so therefore we are scared of them perhaps and dislike them.
2007-01-18 03:36:23
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answered by rach 3
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Sorry buddy but the Muslims in Britain are much more intolerant than the "whites".
According to the daily Telegraph 32% of British Muslims think Western society is "decadent and immoral and should be put to and end".
How do you express tolerance in the face of people who openly wants to destroy your way of life?
Not all of them, clearly. But this is where over tolerance has gotten Britain.
2007-01-18 03:35:26
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answered by Anonymous
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what station you watching ..and yes there is a strong dislike for Muslims at the moment but they don't like us either and they want to change us if they succeed look out and yes also been to Egypt and was great country but don't be fooled they only wanted your money ...bet you spent loads on backhanders yes |I know its their culture...but we also have a culture and don't want it changed and if it needs changing we will do not under threats or anything else and by the way it was your country who started it so don't blame us read your own unbiased news if you have any .
2007-01-19 14:58:01
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answered by bobonumpty 6
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hi (((Eartha))) Is making a sweeping generalization discriminatory? i don't think of so. Inflammatory specific. Counterproductive, specific, notwithstanding if that's not discriminatory. Discrimination may be to keep away from a muslim getting a job even in spite of the undeniable fact that they have got been the terrific qualified. I might desire to assert that from my time right here in R&S I actual have found out to be extra distrustful of human beings in faith than earlier. I do, notwithstanding if, have 2 acquaintances right here in NZ that are muslim. it is fairly unusual as there are very very few followers of Islam in my united states. I might desire to assert that that couple are 2 of the main endearing those that that's been my privilege to renowned, yet I nonetheless despise their faith. i ask your self how long our friendship will final as quickly as we've a frank talk approximately our non secular perspectives? If mainstream Islam have been to be slightly extra self severe, then i might average my perspectives, however the debacle over the recent anybody Draw Muhammad Day experience shows Islam in undesirable gentle: risky, divisive, parochial interior the severe and unable to tolerate valid grievance. an analogous applies to Zionism and fundamentalist Christian concept - for the checklist. You made the element that there is not any distinction between making a racial slur and making a slur against Islam. I disagree. One won't be able to help the colour of the exterior wherein one is born, yet with existence like education and the appliance of techniques capacity, you could replace one's non secular and social perspectives. notwithstanding if one might desire to is up for debate. the priority lies with Islamic clerics' intolerance in the direction of any standpoint different than their very very own (to wit, Pakistan's censorship of fb, the sanctioned dying threats against Salman Rushdie...). This makes that talk impossible on an excellent scale. Am I conflating Islamic management with all followers of Allah? possibly, yet there are center values interior the religion that carry real in any different case it does not be a valuable faith. The center values of all valuable religions have an ingredient of belligerence in the direction of competing faiths. till religions of all stripes tone themselves down slightly, i will proceed to hate faith, yet like the non secular. i will additionally proceed to make generalist statements approximately faith because of the fact there truly is not any incorrect thank you to attack the matters.
2016-10-07 08:30:58
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answered by rotanelli 4
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