He now says i getting a disaplinery for walking out on work. Is this right? my hours of work are 10 at night to seven in the morning - so 9 hours which i'd done - he had the whole night to speak to me so i dont know why i have to stay on my own time.
2007-01-17 19:55:56 · 19 answers · asked by TOMMY G 2 in Business & Finance ➔ Careers & Employment
If you have worked the required daily hours, then he can do nothing and you should not be disadvantaged by your decision to leave.
You should speak to your union (bet you don't have one) or the local citizens advice bureau. If your company has a human resources manager or personnel manager, make an appointment with them - they are the legal custodians of the employee relationship and will advise your manager to back off.
Having said that, it won't stop the company from putting a couple of points against your name and the manager from making you his personal mission for the rest of the year!
Talk to him first - get the boundaries straight.
2007-01-17 20:02:50 · answer #1 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
He cannot really give you a warning for walking out in your own time, but my guess is that he feels angry because he was expecting to see you and you weren't there, thus undermining his authority.
In future, if you say you will stay, then stay. If you can't then at least have the decency to let your boss know.
You should have mentioned that you couldn't stay when he asked, instead of giving him the impression you would be there then up and leaving.
A disciplinary is his way of saying, "Hey, I'm the boss, don't take the p*ss."
If I were you I would just eat a bit of humble pie - start your next shift ten minutes early and ask to speak to him. Apologise for leaving but say you had to go for some reason or other, and apologise for not informing him.
It all depends on how he rates you as a worker to what he says, the disciplinary might be an excuse to lay you off in the coming months. Only you know the working relationship the two of you have, and whether you are a good worker or not, or more importantly, whether your boss rates you as one.
2007-01-18 04:38:06 · answer #2 · answered by This is my username 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
oh my, why didn't you just stay? That is what you should have done.
Now you're probably going to get fired over this. He won't admit it's over this, he doesn't have to admit anything. He will just make up some other excuse; or he will make your life so miserable that you'll quit. He'd probably rather do that, because then he won't have to pay unemployment for the first 13 weeks.
You should have just stayed for the 10 minutes.
Basically speaking, bosses can fire anyone "at will", that means without any reason as long as it's not a violation of the law (for example, your ethnic or religious background, stuff like that would be illegal). Unless you're in a union, then the rules change. That's why they have unions you know.
2007-01-18 04:09:59 · answer #3 · answered by MrZ 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hm I am sure you did tell him that you could not stay in after work hours ? If you didn't - it just looked unprofessional and most likely he has had his pride hurt - though you were not obliged to work the longer hours unless this is clearly stated in your contract of employment. Suggest you go the website below and then employment - they have good advise. Your Boss has got to be careful that his behaviour is not considered as bullying - I would ask for a mediation between you and your boss by an in dependant person agreed to by both of you - then the situation needs to be diffused. If your boss then makes the mistake of making your life a misery and you leave - it could be taken as Constructive Dismissal - but from now keep a diary of requests done that you consider un-necessary - be clear in telling them if you will or will not stay behind after hours, keep incidents of discrimination; snide remarks etc that can be considered to be bullying you - but read the site below - good
2007-01-18 05:18:01 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
He has no right to expect this of you as he has as you say had 9 hours to talk to you. If you have worked at this job for more than 12 months and he disciplines you or even fires you you will be able to take him to a tribunal. He is bluffing and if he is an experience manager he will know your rights. Go to see him during your shift and ask him what it was he wanted you for. He is then given the opportunity to see you for the reason he had. Be nice though and act as if nothing untoward has happened unless he goes on the offencive to you.
2007-01-18 04:06:39 · answer #5 · answered by ANF 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Asking you to stay behind was not unreasonable and probably within your Contract of Employment.
If you can show that there was a need for you to leave on time then this may be a defence.
A disciplinary is unlikey to result in a dismissal for this type of offence and just a verbal warning
2007-01-18 04:08:22 · answer #6 · answered by Nimbus 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you are contracted for the hours and did not agree to do it then there is no problem.
If you actually agreed to stay and then left then you will have a problem with your boss so a telling off (but not a proper disciplinary) is fair enough.
Seems silly to argue about ten minutes though!
2007-01-18 04:06:59 · answer #7 · answered by roly 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You cannot be forced to stay behind after your normal hours.
If you had agreed to stay, and didnt I think you can be given a disciplinary, but if you didnt agree, you cant.
However, you have made your job a lot harder. you've created bad feeling. you should have told your boss at the time, that you were not going to stay.
2007-01-18 04:11:38 · answer #8 · answered by Vinni and beer 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think it is a matter of principle that you stayed in case it was something important he wished to talk about, unless you had a bus or train to catch. If you are enthusiastic about your job it should not have been a problem. Of course this would not be acceptable if it was a regular occurrence!
2007-01-18 04:15:12 · answer #9 · answered by Spiny Norman 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are right. He cannot dicipline you for not staying on. Not even if he'd ask you to stay and do overtime. That is your time and your choice. However, this incident WILL make life difficult for you at work. You just have to decide if your skin is thick enough to ride it out!
2007-01-18 04:00:28 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋