would it be inconsiderate of me to leave?

Question

ok back in June last year i get this job that i think is gonna be the greatest oppertunity ever, it was a new salon that was due to open in July, however due to delays i didnt start to october bearing in mind i was never paid until october and i sat waiting around for this job i still hung in there.
now the salon is open im starting to feel this just isnt the place for me. firstly the pay is dismal i mean i travel 3 hours to this job for crap pay when in fact i could get a job nearer where i live for more pay. i was told before we started i would be earning more but seems thats not true.also i find the salon so dis organised i seem to be the only one that actually takes the innititive to clean.when i said about leaving and that i felt it wasnt for me my boss turned around and was quite nasty about it all said that if i wanted to leave fine but i was liable for the training costs which amounts to over £600. am i liable if i dont have a contract that states that. am i being unreasonable

ive not even signed a contract yet which seems to be so strange. but still does that make me liable in anyway. im also worried that if i do leave i know she wont give me a reference which i thinks unfair coz i have been a hard worker

Answer 1

Sorry to hear you've had yourself a bit of a bum deal here.

Firstly, "inconsiderate" doesn't come into it. You have no obligations whatsoever to your employer, especially as you have not signed, or been offered, a contract and unless a verbal agreement has been reached otherwise, you would be perfectly within your rights to walk out without any notice at all.

No point labouring the point that you should have got yourself a contract of employment - just put that down to experience and make sure you get one next time. As it happens, not having a contract has probably made it easier for you to leave.

Secondly, unless you came to some agreement with your employer as regards training, cost of training and reimbursement if and when you left, you can tell them to poke it on the £600 your boss says you owe them.

My advice would be to,

1. Make sure that you are paid fully up-to-date at all times from now on, so that they do not have money to withold if it all turns nasty.

2. Go to see your prospective new employers on a day off and be honest with them - tell them the truth about why you are leaving (which is for better pay and working closer to home) and explain why you may not get a good reference from your current employer........but don't bleat on about the negatives, just state the facts clearly and succintly, you don't want to be thought of as a moaner.

3. You could decide to join a union, albeit for a short term. They would help you if your current employer turns nasty (Amicus costs £9.75 a month).

4. Make sure you get all the paperwork and money you are owed by your current employer on the day you leave. If you don't get it - write to them immediately and put a very short time scale on a response. If you still don't get it, go legal straight away and write to them advising them that you are seeking legal advice

Very best of luck - its so disheartening when a job you've really wanted turns out to be rubbish.........I've been there myself. Be positive and it will all turn out fine.

Answer 2

Seems like a pretty unhealthy working environment all around and you would be best to get out now. I'm not sure on the legality surrounding the contract (or lack thereof), but it seems like if you didn't sign that you would be responsible for training charges, the boss'd have a hard time proving you liable. It sounds like she's saying that to scare you into staying. I'd definitely consult with a legal mind familiar with your area and your job, but even if there is an unwritten contract, it sounds like the boss hasn't been too good about holding up her end of the bargain (delayed opening, less salary than promised, etc). One way or the other, though, I think you should move on.

Answer 3

Well, I don't think you would be liable for training costs since you did not sign a contract. But is there an emloyee handbook that you can refer to, to make sure it does not say that in there.

Next, you have to repair walls between your boss, since down and tell her you were upset that day but you can see the salon is not doing as well as expected and were concerned. Ask her what you can do to help it run better.

Also ask if she can give you a written guideline of what work you were hired to do and how well you have met those responsibilities and then under another heading the additional responsibilites that you have inquired about and are willing to take on. Tell her you just want to be clear of what is expected and you want to make sure she is getting everything that she expected. And if she is not happy, ask what you can do to to make her happy. Keep track of your achievements. Now you have written proof of your past performance. Who knows, she may decide she likes your attitude and give you a raise/promotion.

In 3 months, sit down and ask her for an update on this review. Now, if things aren't better, you have a nice written documents of how she feels you are working out. It gives the new salon a chance to work out the kinks and sets you up a bit better for a new job.

Good Luck

Answer 4

If you havent signed anything, you are not liable, it would not hold up in court without your signature.
Why would u travel for 3 hrs? Get a job closer.
If you travel that far & the pay isnt that great, you are loosing money. As if you get a closer job & still make the same, at least you aren't spending so much in gas or hotel rooms if u stay overnite.
I'd say leave & find a better, closer job.

Answer 5

It sounds like your employment is voluntary - which means you don't have to pay any 'training' costs back to anyone.

Talk to your nasty boss about why you are unhappy. Include one of your coworkers in your conversation. The coworker should be someone that isn't your best friend, nor your boss's. Your boss might be a little less venomous with others around and come clean on why things aren't what she expected either.

If that doesn't come out the way you want, write a resignation letter and find another job.

Answer 6

I have a three yr ancient youngster and her mattress time is 8pm. I do not appreciate it whilst I see younger toddlers at the bus whilst I'm going out clubbing at 10pm. I consider it is unfair at the kids to be up so past due. Children quite must be in a pursuits and if they do not get ample sleep, they would possibly not be capable to pay attention tomorrow. I consider a few mother and father (mistakenly) consider that in the event that they preserve their youngsters up past due, they will sleep longer within the morning. All that quite occurs is that they are grumpy and irritable. We get a babysitter approximately as soon as a month (none of our household reside neighborhood) and the final factor we desire to peer on our grownup night time out is a small worn out youngster on the subsequent desk. As for the films, why are there kids there besides except you are going to peer a U movie, absolutely the class signifies that youngsters will have to be banned from seeing something rather then U and PG movies? I can type of appreciate the marriage ceremony factor nevertheless, it is virtually not possible to uncover any person to babysit for an complete day and night, nevertheless probably the most mother and father will have to move residence / retire to the resort room on the youngster's mattress-time leaving the dancing to the grown-ups. If the invitation explicity mentioned "no kids" then of path we might no longer attend. I consider plenty of men and women are discovered not to allow having a youngster quit them doing the matters they used to do however the harsh reality is that having a youngster does difference the way you must do matters. How lengthy earlier than we now have ladies dancing in nightclubs with a youngster service strapped to them?

Answer 7

It seems you have made considerable sacrifice to keep working there. If i were you i would have left already. Its a shame that u are being taken advantage of like that.

And NO they cannot hold you liable for training expenses with out a contract being signed PRIOR to the traing sessions.

It is a fear tactic being used to keep you there.

Walk out the door and dont look back.

Answer 8

Wow, I don't know if she could sue you or not for the training costs but it sounds like you really need to walk away from this job. She most likely will not give you a good reference but perhaps at the next job you can explain what happened and go from there...good luck!

Answer 9

well honey, I think you need to get a job that is closer. a job is a job and you don't need to feel bad if you leave. don't take it personally. i'm sure you can find something a lot better in your neighborhood. good luck!

Answer 10

No your are not liable unless they have a contract