I'm not a republican, and I don't support Bush, but lately I've been thinking about why did Bush started a war (I mean the real reason)? Who is it good for? Did anybody else benefited from it, other than us, Americans (that's if you think there is a benefit)? If there is a benefit for us, why do we hate our president so much?
2007-01-16
13:15:19
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Ok, I know about Oil and all the stuff they tell us in the news, but what's the official explanation?
2007-01-16
13:21:20 ·
update #1
Do you really think that the real reason is to fight terrorism? Isn't "War on terrorism" term just sounds ridiculous? Do they really after Osama Bin laden, or using it as an excuse to stay longer in the Middle East?
2007-01-16
13:39:26 ·
update #2
By the way my grammar sucks, so excuse me.
2007-01-16
14:23:04 ·
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in the 9/11 report it states that the (war on terror) is actaully called the war against radical islam. Its in there. We are trying to be politically correct by saying war on terror in public but that is just not the case. that being said, islam is in the middle east and the ONLY way to try to combat it is to change the mindset of the everyday citizen to stand up against their radical leaders or atleast not fall in line with them. we cant go around killing anyone that wants to cause harm that will never end. We have to change their views. this means education and governmental stability. whether or not Iraq was the right place right time or not that will be up to the historians however it was ripe to be taken. Saddam was a bad man and Iran was wanting to get into Iraq. the invasion of Iraq was easy compared to what it would have been like it Iran would have taken out saddam and entrenched in Iraq. When the middle eastern leaders (Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq) showed they are refusing to deal with their radicals (and some are involved) we had to take it into our own hands. Now for why it is not stated very clearly our intentions. that would cause a major revolt from the entire middle east if it was publically stated we are fighting their religion. again it may or may not be the right thing and it definatly has turned out to be tough but In my view (and I believe most that agree with this war) this battle against radical islam must begin while we have a chance. If the problem continues to grow and they get further entrenched, controlling more and more oil and also continue in the proliferations of weapons a lot more lives will be lost. Its a long term goal that cant be pushed to the side because it isnt easy.
2007-01-16 13:32:05
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answered by CaptainObvious 7
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I was a Republican when this started. After 9/11 I felt the red, white and blue come over me and I was all for the war. Afganistan was a great victory. Iraq by all reports was thought to be the same. Saddam was confirmed by several countries as having WMDs and supported terrorism including USA, England and Russia. He gave $20,000 to the families of suicide bombers. Iraq boarders Iran and Syria the heart of terrorism. A democratic country there was thought to prosper and spread ideals and rebellion to the heart of terrorism where unrest already was stirring. We thought we would sweep in and bring freedom to those that wanted it. Never before has a people not wanted freedom. Except Iraq.
Now not all Iraq is bad, of the some 15 providences there only 3 or so are bad. The others are seeing economic boom like never before. You almost never hear bad reports comming from Kurd control north Iraq.
But the Sunni/Shite conflict rages. They see freedom and think it brings a liberalism that will turn their sons gay and there daughters into whores. They look at us and Europe, our TV and magazines and see filth and they stand up and say "over my dead body will you turn my son gay, or force my daughter to dress like a slut or have an abortion." Islam is only 1500 years old, 500 years ago Christianity was no different. It's hard to blame them.
But we cannot lose sight of what happened on 9/11. We were attacked. But what happened to the unity that came after our Pearl Harbor. We were united for a month and lost track. But, since 9/11 we have had no attacks on American soil. The fight still goes on, but over there it's not their turf, easier for them there. Bad or not and I greive for the losses of Americans they are keeping the fight away from us, which is their mission and goal.
Did somebody say oil? I hear blood for oil everywhere. And while I would love to say it was for oil why am I not pay $1 on a gallon of gas? That argument makes no sense to me. Lets invade a country so we can get more oil then charge more for it? Oil prices are a refinement issue not an oil cost issue. The EPA has so many standards it costs 2-3 times the cost to refine the oil into gasoline for our cars.
But how do we win the war? A troop surge? A pullout? The biggest problem is we have the greatest military ever but Bush has been pressured to force regulations that make it so our soldiers don't shoot first and ask questions later. You will not win a boxing match with your gloves on while you opponent brings and RPG or AK-47 in the ring. We cannot win against an opponent unless we are allowed to fight. We cannot win against an opponent who hates the infadels more then they love their own children.
Also while the President is keeping the war over there he is not securing us here. Thousands of people cross our boarders illegally daily, are they all Latino decent? I hope so but likely not. We need to secure our boarders and BUILD A WALL! Something the President is against cause of the benefit it gives to his contributors and friends. And while I love the Latino people, hell my sister-in-law is from Mexico, we cannot allow terrorists to come over the boarder with a suitcase nuke.
This fight will go on for the next 100+ years until Islam gets Westernized or we area beheaded. We can pull out now and maybe see peace in our lives but Militant Islam will strike again will it be your kids? Grandkids? Great-Grankids? How many levels in the family tree does it have to go down before you turn your cheek?
2007-01-16 13:46:36
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answered by hardkore_hargus 1
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I think there are many reasons for him to start this war.
I think the first reason is that Osama Bin Laden was not an easy target. Just consider this - we have been hunting the man down for over 5 years and he is still out there. Saddam & Iraq were easy targets compared to Osma. Saddam was an evil guy and better yet, he had not been a friend to the United States for many years.
Cheap oil is yet another reason to go to war. Our economy depends on oil. Look at any other country. The price they spend for gas is much more than what we pay.
Look at who ole George boys friends are. You have Dick Chaney who was the head of Halaburten who by the way is making a killing off this war. George Sr. continues to do business with OPEC.
I think there is also a certian psychology to ole Georgie boy as well. If you look at his life, he has failed at everything he has done. He did rotten in College, didn't make the football team, quit the air force, failed at being an oil tycoon, and failed at a run for the senate. I think he wanted Daddy to be impressed with him. Daddy didn't get Saddam but he did.
Finally, the United States needed (or at least thinks they need) a base in the middle east. It is a bit hard to be a super power with no military (land base) there. Now, the United States has a permant base.
It is hard to understand what is in a crazy man's mind but these are my thoughts
2007-01-16 13:29:14
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answered by Nancy S. 4
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Let me see...
Why B started a war (in Iraq)? - The US Prexy bases his decision to declare war whether limited, medium or full-scale, on Intel reports. Media has it that it's all about the development of biological weapons (nerve gas, Anthrax) that could kill en masse but it was never proven so I suspect that Intel reported a different pressing reason that needed only to be addressed by invading Iraq.
Who is it good for? It's for the US and its war industry (weapons, construction and medical). More people to kill, more weapons needed. More buildings destroyed, more construction necessary. More soldiers wounded, more medical support ... and more abandoned oil wells, more oil reserves.
Did anybody else benefitted from it other than US? Yes, if war has collateral damage, it has also pheriperal benefits like allied nations have more reasons to declare state of alert against terrorism and these nations in other parts of the world will ask the US for support in terms of detecting, finding and apprehending terrorists. More money spent for these things means more business for US. All in all, we're talking of billions of dollars flowing into the US war industry.
Why do we hate the Prexy? Because the families are losing their beloved husbands, fathers, sons and daughters in the 'unnecessary' war, could had been avoided if other peacful efforts were exhausted first and because the Prexy is tolerating military minds (which lack understanding of the long-term impact of war vs. Islamic countries) to dictate to the majority of the population how they can live peacefully and ensure a better future for their children.
2007-01-16 14:07:31
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answered by Willie Boy 5
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http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
Here's the reasoning for war courtesy of a Decorated General based on what he's been privy to.
Like others answering your post--Kudo's for being able to wrap your mind around the basis for this war in regards to Oil. You'd be suprised how many folks refuse to take off the blinders and surrender to the only absolute interest Bush and Cheney have in the region.
Other than maintaining the elites ability to fleece our economy and all it's diversity through our dependancy on oil--there is no plausible need for the death and destruction incited by the Bush Regime going back to Bush 1. If Iraq was still under Huessein we'd be reaping the benefits of the low energy costs that would have been created through the marketplace competition between OPEC and Iraq--Iraq was on the verge of boosting oil production through a group of non-US Oil entities when Cheney had that infamous energy meeting where the elites developed this horrendous policy for the Republican Party to pass on to the President and the world at large.
Why wouldn't you hate a man that was given every advantage as a leader to take our Nation up a notch in all respects only to give away the farm to the Globalist Corporate Capitalists?
2007-01-16 13:44:28
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answered by scottyurb 5
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In case you missed it, the stated purpose for the war was to eliminate storage and production of WMD and to prevent Saddam Hussein from sponsoring worldwide terrorism. We succeeded at the second and failed at the first. Saddam successfully bluffed the world into believing he had WMD and we invaded to take them away from him as a result. I'd call that a colossal blunder on Saddam's part. Once we were there it was too late. You can't un-invade, can you? Especially after you've destroyed the government and totally anhiliated the army. So here we are. We kicked down the door, rampaged through the house, and didn't find the loot. Now we have to fix it. Why? Because we were the ones who broke it. Now, here is where all the conspiracy theorists start their railing about oil and Haliburton and Dick Cheney. In case you haven't noticed, Iraq's oil is still in Iraq. Haliburton is one of many government contractors who are in Iraq. Do you expect the government to exclude them from bidding on contracts because Dick Cheney once worked for them? Isn't that some form of discrimination? For the record, Cheney liquidated all his holdings with Haliburton when he ran for Vice President to prevent any conflict of interests. He has nothing to gain from them making money off of government contracts.
The benefit to us is the protection of American interests abroad. Another benefit, pending the success of the operation, is a stable democracy in the middle east that is friendly to America. By doing that we would eliminate a sponsor of global terrorism and replace it with an ally in the region.
This hatred of Bush began on the day of his inauguration. Iraq is just a convenient excuse to froth at the mouth a little more. Logic and reason aren't required and apparently facts are optional, as well.
2007-01-16 13:39:14
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answered by Anonymous
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I think Bush benefitted in the short term--it boosted his popularity enough that he could squeak through a 2nd-term election. And he may have actually believed that we would be welcomed as liberators, and setting up permanent military bases in Iraq would be as easy as fighting Iraq's already decimated military. It was good for a few U.S. companies, which were able to land no-bid contracts and skim money off of the top, bottom, and middle. It may have been good for Bush's ego, because it was something his father wanted to do but chose not to.
And, if it had been a more successful venture, it would have been aces for Bush's popularity ratings through his 2nd term, it would have given the U.S. permanent military bases in a key location, and hey, they may really have believed it would have made a place for democracy to take root in the Middle East. Not that any of this was likely, but it's like betting on a long shot at the races. Sometimes the payoff is so big you forget how unlikely it is.
Plus, in a couple of years, when we do lose this war, the radical right (who were never really conservative) get to blame the Democrats in Congress for the failure, and it solidifies their base.
2007-01-16 13:41:13
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answered by thunderpigeon 4
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It seems that he started to finish what his father started. Bush used 9/11 as a smoke screen. He had word of an attack on the US weeks before it hit us.His father was the reason that they had weapons of mass destruction in the first place. Ben laden was found by our troops not even a year after the start of the war in a underground hole he had built. The president (and I use that term loosely) ordered Iraqi troops to capture him instead of our own. It was always about Saddum Hussein. Now look at the gas and oil prices. He has made huge mistakes and is not man enough to admit it.
2007-01-16 13:31:26
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answered by jdub1206 1
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Bush don't start any war! Al Quida started it years before Bush. Even before the Clinton regime, when planes fell from the sky!
THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY WAY TOO MANY LIES AND DISINFORMATION FLOATING AROUND (esp. the 'net) AND BEING FED TO IMPRESSIONABLE MINDS TODAY! Don't believe everything you see or hear. There many sites that lie, pervert the news into imaginary scenarios, don't tell anything against their 'enemies', cults, child predators, and other potentially very dangerous sites, TV news and 'commentary' show, fantasy movies, and the list goes on. Get to know what the truth is, especially don't listen to your teachers about bs their pushing into young people's minds. Learn the important things (math, English, American history, science, civics (somewhat, it's been polluted by lib distortion), government, spelling, etc.
Good luck to you all, and seek the truth.
2007-01-16 13:54:01
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answered by Anonymous
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Going forward, historians will be the best judges of Bush and whether it was worth it going to war. In the end, I think he'll get a break because love or hate Bush, his actions now will produce a better Middle East in the future. We are dealing with the largest promoters and exporters of terrorism, Iraq, Iran and Syria. At some point, we would deal with these nations anyway, so we may as well take them on now when they are not possessing as many nuclear weapons. In my opinion, Bush will take the fall for the difficult work of taking on these nations, and historians will realize this when the result of a more peaceful middle east is realized. This peace will be after the next major wars occur.
2007-01-16 13:17:48
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answered by charles 3
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