Will 2nd generation Irish people born in England ever be accepted?

Question

I've lived in Dublin for the past 4 odd years, but have now returned to London. Although the majority of people I met were really safe and friendly, there was always some tw@t who'd hear my accent and carry on about the stuff England's done to Ireland as if I were Oliver Cromwell's/Henry VIII's son. I'm not trying to make out as if any of the terrible things England did to Ireland didn't happen, but at the end of the day it wasn't me that did those things. It just seemed that I couldn't ever go out without it being brought up at least once a night.

I went over feeling very Irish and proud to be so, and returned feeling 100% English.

And I'd appreciate real answers as opposed to the usual Brit insults.

Thanks.

Answer 1

I think that no matter where you go in the world you will always find someone who likes to pour oil on troubled waters, they hear your accent and suddenly your the person who caused all the world's troubles, I have a friend who's Dublin born and she had to put up with a heck of a lot of crap when she came to live here 5 years ago, I have family who have lived in Australia for over 30 years and to this day are still bombarded with the Pom aggro of those who consider themselves true Australians, I honestly think that no matter where you are you will always get those who prefer to bring up the past instead of getting on with the future, best thing to do is to smile and let them live in their ignorance, those type of people will never change, you be proud of who you are and never become as bigoted as them.

Answer 2

Good qusetion - What was happening 1000 years ago in Ireland who's land was it then - I think maybe another 3 generations need to pass before this shite disappears - But what you say is true and very clever. Why does the accent get abuse - just like the skin. My grandparents were from Lurgan(N.I) and Donegal(ROI), I was born in Scotland and as far as I am concerned I am Scottish first and foremost

Answer 3

My mothers parents came from Ireland to Scotland in the early 1900's.... but I do not & would not consider myself part Irish....like some people - ( The Americans do this...call themselves Irish-American Italian American... ) As far as I am concerned I am Scottish - as I was born in Scotland... We should all move on and start thinking about the future.forget the backward past & the mistakes that was made... The Irish - tend to have a large chip on their shoulder..with the bygone days.. they are now a seperate country called Eire..and they should get on with it.. Be English -- and forget they leprechauns.

Answer 4

Born in England to Irish moms and dads: you need to be first era English of Irish descent. (until eventually there's a typo interior the question). First era being shorthand for first era born in X or to have X nationality.

Answer 5

`maybe the question u should have asked is will any generation of Irish people born in England be excepted to answer your question as an Irishman born in Ireland and living here your experience in down to pure Irish ignorance and nothing more some people have issues with the (BRIT THING )OTHERS DON`T, ALL I ASK IS THAT LIKE THESE STUPID TWATS, YOU DON`T LABEL ALL THE REST OF US WITH THEM sorry for the ignorance of others

Answer 6

It is a shame that people can be so foolish. However, it must be said that there has also been an anti-Irish feeling in Britain for several decades, until recently.

Answer 7

"It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him,"

Said Irishman George Bernard Shaw & he was quite wrong, it seems it isn't just the English who despise on account of accent.

Answer 8

Thats the problem with identity and nuture over nature.

Answer 9

sorry to hear this...its just ignorance....