Israeli/Russian cultural views of women?

Question

I've asked this in a different category, but thought I'd ask it here to get more responses. How do Israeli Culture and Israeli men view women? Are women equal to men? Is education valued for women? Are women expected to be subordinate? Are they expected to stay home and clean and cook? Are women's careers valued? My daughter is marrying an Israeli man whose family is Russian, and who is very nice, but I have seen some signs that I do not like... very subtle, but definitely present. She's wondering herself about this. Any information you can give me on Israeli or Russian culture and women is appreciated.

Israeli Jewish, transplant from Russia when he was very young - yes. He's not religious at all though, and neither is my daughter.

Answer 1

well, it really depends on the guy and his up-bringing

is the guy a Jew?

if he is not religious - that's good

in Russia women are equal to men, not expected to be subordinate, sometimes expected to stay at home to look after kids and to cook but not a lot of women stay at home, the view on a woman's career depends on the view of a person

Answer 2

Israeli women are very career oriented, and they also must serve time in the israeli army, they are not expected to stay home and cook or clean. With Russian women, this is another story. Russian men are chauvanists, who believe a woman belongs in the home to take care of the children, cook, clean, and have sex. Given the fact that your daughters fiancee happens to be Jewish, then this could mean he is not all caught up in Russian culture, thus meaning he wont be as backward about the role of a woman. But if your daughter is having suspicions, then she needs to figure out whether her fiancee's family is pushy, and whether or not they feed ideas into his head.

Answer 3

Without religious implication, the prognosis is promising so long as the to-be spouse's parents are not insistent.

Used in the loosest sense, Russian culture are pretty modernized. Pre-perestroika/glasnost values of traditional and respectable Russians err on the traditional practice of family values.

Early migrants from Russia to Israel have the tendency to emphasise or de-emphasise the following traits from the average Russian family who have not left their country, based on one’s limited experience, singling out a family as follows:


“Are women equal to men?”
Salary: No more than women who are paid less in England and depends on the job undertaken. With certain quirks, total equality does not exist on the same levels in the North America and in England.

“Is education valued for women?”
Depends on the parents’ trade. Traditional families often exert significant influence on their children to follow their parents foot steps, so that parents may assist their children in a field which they are familiar with and that existing good relationships of the older and younger generation may be built upon. Intimate knowledge of the trade is more easily transferred within the family and across families.

A friend whose chosen profession as a cardiologist hails from similar roots, was similarly influenced to Medicine like her older sister, who studied internal medicine though with somewhat less drive.

Their Father was Head of Internal Medicine for Tartarstan under the Soviet Union (Респу́блика Татарста́н, now known as Republic of Tartarstan, C.I.S.) and Mother a head nurse. Their parents (i.e. grandparents) in turn were also in the medical profession as doctors during the second World War.


“Are women expected to be subordinate?
Are they expected to stay home and clean and cook?
Are women's careers valued?”

Subordination could be implied if interpreted as traditional and respectable families regard the women a mother first, being the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, over careers. Progressive and open thought allows parental roles to swap gender responsibilities.

Values are such that Family comes first and above all in the event of emergency and necessity over work. Having latch key children without a parent to go home at the end of a school day is looked upon with quiet disdain and pity. Traditional folk with proper upbringing generally prefer a mother as role model over a father figure .

With the possibility that a woman makes more than a man in today’s developed economies, it may more likely prove difficult to reason with the to-be spouse’s parents, rather than the spouse, as sensible choice that the lesser of two income streams take on domestic duties.

In the instance of family doctors above, their Mother did cease work temporarily when with child. Should an emergency occur with one of the children taking ill, the mother did prioritise to look after the child.

Both parents worked long hours as is expected in the medical profession, with the mother working an average of twelve hours a day. The sisters' Grandparents would take alternate turns to look after the girls after school hours. Observe any similarities to a western traditional family ?

Answer 4

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Answer 5

I asked a similar question of a retired IDF major. He said that a story would best illustrate the answer.

Three couples joined for coffee--American, British, and Israeli. The American said to his wife, "Please pass the sugar, Sugar."

The Brit asked his wife to, "Please pass the honey, Honey."

From the Israeil: "Give me the milk, Cow!"

Of course, though, he should be seen as an individual; he may not fit the stereotype.

I hope you find that helpful.

Just a personal note, be glad they are not in Pakistan. Unless a woman there can provide four male witness to her being raped, she is jailed for adultrey. And in court, a man's testimony is twice as valuable as a woman's.