Evolution verses creationism?

Question

Can anyone give me some scientific evidence/proof for either evolution or creationism? I have questions and can't seem to find anyone that can prove their answer either way.

Thanks Randy. So far you are the only one that is trying to prove your point.

Thats what I want people, just prove it.

Lothar, so which is it. You started by saying that there is no evidence either way, then you say there is evidence for evolution but no evidence of a God.

Once again people, prove your claims

GreyFox, how do you support these claims. I mean after all, all the dogs still came from a dog. I want to go way back to the beginning.

Where did the first live cells come from in the beginning.

Gebobs, thanks for the web site. I will check it out. That is the kind of answer I am looking for.

Sickcrash, looks like you believe that all dinosaurs were very large. I have done some research into that and actually most dinosaurs were actually rather small.

gebobs: checked out the site you recommended. It looks good, but still they don't seem to go clear to the beginning of existance. To me, it seems that science can go back only so far, it seems to claim that we came from the waters, but still there seems no actual evidence of that happening. There seems to be before and after evidence, but not during.
I'll keep looking though, there is a lot of great info there.

Answer 1

It would take me all day for a good write up, so please, please take the time to visit http://www.answersingenesis.org It is a wonderfully balanced site with a huge amount of information. They are very science minded and address all the issues we would normally think about. It's worth it. Thanks.

Answer 2

There is a lot to be said here. First of all the bible says that the Earth is only 6,000 years old and that man was born with the dinosaurs. We all know this is not true and that the dinosaurs died off long ago and man emerged millions of years later. We would have been decimated by the dinosaurs if we had coexisted at that time. Just like we decimated many species of animals for food or other. Now, looking at the map of the world, it hasn't changed since Columbus and other explorers started to map it out. This would show that the tectonic plates take a long time to move and since it has been over a 1000 years since the Vikings came to North America. If the Earth was 6000 years old, they why are there dinosaur species that flourished on the East Coast of South America and the West coast of Africa, unless they were one. With the patterns of plate movement, it would have take a lot more that 6000 years for both to have moved apart...right.
Now, how did we get here. We have found many different skeletons and remains of earlier primates and human ancestors that show a type of evolution. Primates that had made certain tools that were found with them. If someone wants to say tyhat well monkeys and apes are still here why didn't they evolve, well the primates thousands of years ago had made certain tools and weapons, why don't the monkeys and apes have them now. Because those species did not evolve. When made out, they show changes that man has gone through in order to get where we are today. Brain function is proof of evolution. Our minds have evolved and thus has caused us to evolve. Evolution is not an overnight process, it takes time and only changes for the present, not the future. The perfect organism that shows evolution is the AIDS virus. It continually evolves until the host is dead. Look at all the studies done on the AIDS virus and you will see proof. When the Earth was forming, there was also cooling. What happens when there cold touches heat. Condensation occurs. Where there is water there is life and that is where we come from. They have also found a fossil of a lungfish that had developed legs. There is the missing link for sea to land adaptations and evolution. Proof, right there. Evolution is happening right in front of us and only few are witnessing it, and the others just don't want to believe.

Answer 3

the simplest answer for evolution is this.

Dogs.

Before mankind came around, there were wolves, coyotes, and other such medium sized plain wild dogs.

Now we have great danes and teacup chihuahuas. We selectively bred them over a few thousand years, and now we have two types of dog that couldn't mate with each other, even if they really wanted to.

If we killed off all the small dogs except teacup chihuahuas, and all the medium sized dogs, and left just great danes and teacup chihuahaus...they would fit the definition of COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SPECIES because they could not mate and produce offspring.

So we see CONCRETE EVIDENCE of un-natural evolution.

The second answer is the mule. Created from a donkey and a horse, a mule cannot produce any offspring at all, but it can be made from a horse and a donkey. This is EXCELLENT evidence that Horses and Donkeys have the same origins, but over time have become genetically incompatible with each other. There are also fossils that support with SOLID EVIDENCE that horses have grown more horselike and donkeys more donkeylike over the years, and that they came from the same species, once upon a time....just like a teacup chihuahua and a great dane came from the same species of wild dogs. We can dig up bones of horses from thousands and million sof years ago, and see it happen.

Ignoring fossils is like seeing footprints in the mud and saying "no-one ever walked there"

Evolution is a pure fact. it happens. We can watch it happen to bacteria in a petri dish, or we can look at fossils and see how things changed. We can see how mankind caused evolution in some cases, and how nature caused it in others.

Answer 4

The creationist say that dinosaurs were pre-diluvian animals.
But there are not humans remains of the same period, cause humans didn't exist then.

Other explanation is the chronological time on the bible, if you calculate according to it, earth was created 5 million years ago. but we know there are many things older than than, like the fossils. Scientifically observation says, that the earth is 4500 million years old.

Besides we evolved from homo erectus, homo habilis, and other pre-humans, we evolved, so how can we be made at the image of god, if there were many kind of "tests of mankind".

But there is something the bible got right "Let the light be done" the first thing created on the solar system was the sun, so that is true. the bible got everything right until the sixth day. Man an evolution is actually the things that are wrong.

Answer 5

Evolution and creationism seem to be fundamentally opposed - whereas evolution is based on natural selection of random mutations, creationism is based on the idea of beneficial adaptations being designed rather than occurring randomly. One problem is the commonly asked questions along the lines of "how do wings evolve suddenly?" for example, and the proposed answer is preadaptation, where very slight changes produce very slight advantages over time, eg wing stubs may have contributed to insulation or camouflage, and so the bigger they got the more beneficial they were, and more likely to be passed on to the next generation, until wings were big enough to also used for flight. Evolution can be seen to occur in organisms with very short reproductive cycles and lifespans eg bacteria, ones that are killed with antibiotics die out and ones that had evolved mutations that are resistant continue to go on and reproduce, passing on this favourable trait. As far as I know creationism is not widely accepted because it relies on making faith/assumption of design/the bible compatible with observable results in science. I don't believe that this is compatible with science (as such I won't comment on the 'proofs','beliefs' etc of this side), but I hope I have made this evolution side of the argument slightly more clear.

FIRST CELLS
- I have recently come across an idea for this in Richard Dawkins' book The Selfish Gene - it can be seen that given water, heat, and carbon compounds (carbon has a very good ability for making large molecules) - the simple building blocks of life can be made - amino acids (this first simple part has been proved). The thought is that these may have reacted with each other in the oceans many many times (billions upon billions etc) forming many different compounds - and mathematically, given a VERY long time, an extremely unlikely event becomes likely to happen - a very large protein may have accumulated and been able to make a copy - a "replicator". From this point on, any adaptations favouring it to stay around and produce more of similar proteins can be said to be evolutionary steps (this book presents the idea that we are essentially "survival machines" for the DNA we replicate).

Answer 6

There is no absolute proof for either of the two. one chooses to believe what one wants:
1. The world was created in 7 days by a big omnipotent god
2. the world slowly evolved into what we see today.

Truth is we have no evidence of god, but we have evidence for evolution.

Answer 7

It goes like this:

Evolution is based in empirical scientific evidence using the scientific method.

Creation is based in faith (belief -- in the absence of scientific evidence.)

Answer 8

For Evolution it is Darwin's Finches

Answer 9

why does it have to one against the other? i understand that God can use evolution to create different forms of living things.

Answer 10

See a Texas pink grapefruit. God did not create it that way.

Answer 11

This site should keep you occupied for a long time.