Over Educated Females?

Question

Today I saw the above expression in what I thought was a notable publication, as a male, I was not impressed with the words, It went on to state that women attempting to achieve equality with their male counterparts, and the "quote" 'stupid legislation to assist them', was a major cause in the decline of British business on the world stage. It went on to state that if the only way that women could achieve this equality of status was by having laws passed to help them, was it then a "flat playing field" for the males and has the equality law become biased against the male?

Your views please.

PLEASE..... READ THE QUESTION THESE ARE NOT MY VIEWS. DON'T BLAME ME OR ASK ME TO PROVE POINTS MADE BY THE PUBLISHERS

Answer 1

Obviously, I am a female, and in addition, I don't consider myself a "feminist" in the sense that liberal women do. I think that article made some very good points, especially the ones you point out: namely, that women have had laws passed to help them get to an 'equal playing field'. The only thing I think would make me disagree is the fact that women and many minorities have had laws passed AGAINST them and for that reason alone, may need an extra boost here or there. However, I am also of the opinion that enough is enough already...women and minorities have had ample time to make up for any historical slight and can and should be able to fend for themselves. I hate affirmative action in all its forms, both gender and racial-based, and think it's done more harm than good.

Answer 2

I'm not fond of 'positive discrimination' but the argument goes that it would just take forever to get women into some areas in reasonable numbers. I want to get a job because I'm the best candidate, not because I fulfill that month's quota of... However, I really don't think this kind of action has caused the decline of British Industry and any article suggesting that would need a closer look. Check out the writer. Incidentally, there are still areas where women are discriminated against in the work force. I wonder how the NHS fares - a predominantly female workforce where the vast majority of senior nursing positions used to be male. Anybody know if that situation has improved? Did I take your question too seriously??

Answer 3

I can still remember my mother telling me about college in the 1940s.

She got lower grades from several of her professors even though her scores and work was better than her male counterparts. Her profs said "You don't need this ... you don't have a family to support," and other BS like that.

Even today the stereotypes of what men and women can and cannot do abound. As far as I know there is nothing a man can do that a woman can't ... and that is not to say ALL women. There are some things some men can do that other men can't either. The only thing I think men can't do that women can is have babies since they don't have all the available equipment. This is not to say that everyone has the same abilities, temperaments or desires.

If it takes legislation, that is a sad statement for our world, yet, without that kind of protection there would still be those who would deny women.

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Answer 4

I would neither expect nor want to be 'helped' into a job by legislation that discriminates against men. Men still on average earn considerably more than women (even when you discount the fact that many women cut their career short or decrease their working hours when they have children, and take that out of the equation). So things are still not equal but i think that creating biased laws would do more harm than good in helping things.

Answer 5

I suppose you could argue that if you need legislation to provide equality, whatever that is, then you are not equal. Men and women are not the same, however. Of course the law is biased against the male. But the females will never admit it. Anyway, this question will bring them all out like a pack of wailing banshees.

'Silly canu' is a wonderful exception. If they were all like that I would bless them to high heaven.

Answer 6

At the end of the day each person acheives what they set out to it doesnt matter how many laws are passed if you want to better yourself male or female you study or learn a skill that eventually leads you to better pay and higher status. Motivation and hard graft make it an even playing field for all, all the major equality laws are history now its down to the individual.
its also small island mentality that keeps us back and lateral thinking that takes us forward.

Answer 7

I think its hilarious. It is a meaningless expression, and although some people will agree with it, what are they agreeing with?
It completely misses the point of any equality legislation. In the '70's things were very different, and legislation was needed to outlaw discrimination as men in power weren't capable of seeing blacks, asians and women as fully human. There's been a backlash ever since, with people complaining that 'it goes too far'.
Equality is equality, nothing more or less. There is no legislation that can force a business to employ someone who is under educated, or lacks relevant qualifications or experience.

Answer 8

There is some truth behind some of what the article is trying to say, although it doesn't articulate it particularly well. The UK education system was overhauled in order to provide ways of learning that appealed to girls more, which is all very reasonable, so you might think. For instance, there is more emphasis on coursework now, as opposed to just examinations (girls prefer to perfect something over time), and there is less emphasis on practical learning (girls are what educational psychologists call "passive learners").

However, all this is to the detriment of boys, who generally do better in examinations as opposed to coursework, and who are "active learners" (i.e. they learn by doing things). (I should point out that no one style of learning is "better" than another, they're just different)

So, in a way, the introduction of educational reforms that introduced styles of learning more suited to girls, have seen boys do less well in school, which is obviously a bad thing for the country. There needs to be a system whereby both genders can achieve their full potential; one should not be prioritised over the other.

Answer 9

What was this notable publication?

Harry Enfield's "Women- Know Your Place" sketch seems to spring to mind. The writer sounds like an ****. How can he blame equality laws for the decline of British business?

What's the name of the writer, and can his article be commented on the internet?

Answer 10

Well where I am theres no special laws for girls, but more of us go to college than boys. I don't know why that is, but they are looking into special help for guys, so more of them will go.
The amount of money available for scholarships is varied and you can get money for college for a lot of things. The local financial aid office can give you info.
Any law that lets one group have a total advantage over another is bad, but one to assist those who are struggling is not that bad.