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Is it true that Odinism has been revived in part by neo-fascists? I know that it is true that Hitler used runic symbols but I am also sure that not everyone using runes is a fascist. Are many Odinists white supremacists? Are many White supremacists Odinists?

2007-01-12 03:31:20 · 3 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities History

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No. The odinist movement was revivied y truly dedicated worshipers of the old gods. It was only after it had been well established that white supremists even became aware of its existance.

Unfortunately, there are still white supremeist in the Odinist movement. Most were already white supremists before they got involved with Odinism and those that retained that attitude did so because they did not truly understand the real nature of what Odinism is all about. Because Odinists are dedicated to the worship of Germanic gods and becasue so many white supremists follow Nazi doctrine the there has become a mix of the two things. Part of the misconception is that Odinism is a religion that is closely tied in to ancestry and really is not suited to those that are not of Nordic ancestry, but then that applies to all culturally based religious belief systems. Because of that idea it is appealing to those that want touse ti for racial and ehtnic discrimination.

There are not as many white supremists as there used to be in the Odinist movement as most Odinist groups take great pains to keep them out of their groups and those that band together usually don't last long and collapse under their own weight.

Most Odinists are not white supremists. There are a few, but barely enough to even mention.

Most white supremists are not Odinists. Oddly enough most white supremists are actually Christian and use the bible to justify their prejudices. That is one reason that they don't stay in the Odinist movement for long, the are too unwilling to put aside their Christian beliefs.


Hopefully, those of us that follow the old gods can finally be free of the prejudice and stigma that has been attached to things of a Germanic nature since that unfortunateness in the 40's.

2007-01-12 04:40:30 · answer #1 · answered by kveldulf_gondlir 6 · 5 0

I really don't think Odinism is term I have ever heard before; most neonazis are only into that kind of stuff because they are retarded. Pagans (folks who might actually worship Odin) are rarely white supremecists, and white supremacists are usually christian.

2007-01-12 03:36:19 · answer #2 · answered by andersdelta 2 · 3 1

Odinists are not "necessarily" racist, per se. Though, it is a neo-pagan movement that has a plethora of followers who would think otherwise. However, majority might rule in this case. I mean, if you are into statistical analysis and all that. So, no, most who practice Odinism are not racist. But, for argument sake, let us say that some of the people who supposedly "practice" the religion ARE racist. Odinism is modern representation of another Northern European neo-pagan religion called "Asatru". You do the research here, because I could write a book on it. :)

Saying these neo-paganists are racists, is like assuming all skinheads are "nazi skinheads". Most people are uneducated to the history of the term "skinhead". When they see a skinhead, most assume that they MUST be racist. Which is why some are left scratching their head inquisitively when they see a black or asian "skin". The truth? The original skinheads were migrants from Jamaica that moved to England, and were primarily employed as dock workers. On the docks back in those days, louse outbreaks were common. So, to battle this, workers would shave their heads. Also, they wore "bracers" with their shirts and jeans, as well as boots that had to withstand oil, grease, and alkaline based chemicals. Enter Dr. Marten, who built a company called "Doc Martens" around boots that would cater to the needs of these dock workers. Jamaican dock workers brought their culture and musical influences with them, such as dance hall reggae and "ska". In much the same way, the local English dock workers introduced their Jamaican brethren to what was to become "street punk" or "Oi!" music. The two converged, and became what we know as modern "traditional" skinhead and "rude boy" music.

My point is this. The "aryan nation" (I do not give them credit enough to capitalize their namesake) is like a virus. It goes in, duplicates what may be useful to its cause, killing anything that was original. It has distorted what northern European religion actually is. It has allowed any white supremacist (no matter what their heritage) to say, "I am white. I am an Odinist. I have roots that stem from Odin himself." They have shed a bad light on people who are of actual Nordic heritage - Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, etc. - who practice a religion that was never based on racial hatred. The aryan nation is infamous for doing this, for the sole purpose of "outreach". The media is part and partial to blame as well. Never one to speak the entire truth, journalism itself has become a self-serving entity never to be trusted.

It is my hope that if anyone reads this, they can educate themselves before passing judgement on any "skinhead" or northern pagan practitioner (or any other "movement" or "religion" for that matter), that has been the unfortunate victim of twisted agenda spread like a disease by the white supremacist movement, or the attention-whore mongering media.

Fun fact? Most Nordic gods were written into sagas, and were based on actual rulers of Northern Europe. "Odin" himself, whose real name was King Yngvi-Frey Bengorisson, born in 193 A.D. and his father, KIng Benjori-Freyr, born in 147 A.D. - were both born in Turkey. King Benjor-Freyr invaded what we know as Norway today, becoming its first "organized" ruler and monarchy. His son, King Yngvi-Frey Bengorisson, was later ruler of both countries, but married a Swedish woman, by the name of Gerðr Gymersdotter, who became his queen. A little history lesson for you there. Bottom line, "Odin" was not stereo-typically "white" as the white supremacists would lead their masses to believe. Sad to say, most of the living population does not know this either. :)

2015-01-10 15:03:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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