Am I the only liberal who thinks that withdrawing from Iraq would be a mistake?

Question

We shouldn't be there. Maybe if the Dems and Press was strong enough to stand up to Bush before the war, we wouldn't be there. But the fact is that we are there, and if we leave, the Shi'ia are going to grind the Sunnis into the ground on a scale even more massive than the number that Saddam did on them. We broke it and we need to fix it. Maybe getting Iran and Syria into the picture as the ISG suggested would help. Maybe we need to partition the place and stay until all three groups have secure nations with equally divided resources. It might sound callous, but the loss of American troops that we would have to endure would be miniscule in comparison to the loss of life should we up and leave.

Syria is predominantly Sunni, madeaware.

Answer 1

No your not, I am not all liberal but now feel since Iraq wants us there, we need to stay, it is our MORAL obligation to try to help and undo the damage our government caused. We are obligated to do what is right, and until they want us to leave, we should not leave them.

Answer 2

First look at what you informed us of, "if we leave the Shi 'ia are going to grind the Sunnis into the ground" "maybe we should get Iran and Syria into the picture"... Iran and Syria are mostly Shi' ia muslims that are on the side of the Shi'ia muslims in Iraq. No matter how you look at this, there are millions of lives still at stake in Iraq and more than likely a horrific slaughter is yet to come, more than likely one that will make the whole world stop and look in shock. The US has no other choice but to stay in Iraq, or it will lose face with the entire planet as the tough guy of the world...think of it. 30 million Iraqis give or take a few, and the States cant take em. What do you think other nations are thinking when they see the mighty Americans getting chased out of Iraq? Its sure boosting the moral of 33 million Canadians. The US will litterally have to show the world how it can flex its muscle and stomp them out , or face humiliation and complete loss of respect throughout the nations. I feel sorry for the American people...my heart goes out to you and all those who have lost a loved one in battle, we Canadians are now suffering the same now that we have taken over the Battle that was started in Afghanistan. But for such a small military as ours we are really kicking butt over there and driving the taliban out and will soon be in Iraq to help your boys come home.
Iran and Syria are very good neighbors, and more than likely would side together in any event if the price was right, like any war.

Answer 3

I didn't vote for W and I don't support his administration or policies. I don't consider myself a liberal but if disagreeing with the current ultra-conservative administration makes me one, then so be it. With that said, no, you aren't the only "liberal" who thinks that withdrawing from Iraq is a mistake. It shows a real disrespect for the troops who have been and are there now defending each and every one of us. I'm deeply and forever indebted to them. We go over there and mix up this quagmire and leave? Very bad form, I say. We need to finish what we started but DEFINITELY NOT keep the status quo as we should all be able to admit by now (even W admitted it). I believe the change in strategy is a move forward.

Edit: Most democrats and some republicans who voted to invade Iraq did so based upon false information. The argument that democrats voted to go to war is a moot point as the information they were fed was false. Not only that but bad decision after bad decision was made during and throughout the course of the war which is really what the objections are about anyway - not about the initial decision to go to war.

Answer 4

a million. We a minimum of claimed to never have administration of the oil there interior the 1st place. besides no oil is imported to the US from Iraq, and hasnt been for a decade now, via embargos earlier. 2. Terrorists are starting to be in numbers with our troops there 3. Being in Iraq quite advsersly outcomes our popularity around the area 4. The civilians are killing eachother in iraq. Its a civil conflict. 5. Why do you're saying 'would be divided', that's split. 6. the main important possibility i think of of withdrawal from Iraq is Iran moving in, accompanied possibly by applying Saudi Arabia and Turkey to guard their hobbies as properly besides this would not consequence the US right away in any way. 7. We did what we went there to do. That portion of the international is in basic terms volatile and not something we do or dont do is going to alter that. era. you cant combat a conflict against the potential for something taking place hahaha...its ludicrous. If by some potential in teh aftermath of the civil conflict Adolf Hitler comes decrease back from the lifeless and could become the emperor of Iraq, i assume we could constantly invade returned. yet that's their conflict. Their history. Its none of our employer and have faith me, we dont want it to be.

Answer 5

The biggest liberal argument is get our troops home as quickly and safely as possible.. the "cut and run" was a political ploy by the republicans.. what the Dem's want is to either fix it as quickly as possible and get the hell out.. or concede that we can never fix it ... accept that grim truth and leave them to their fate... at this time they are still looking for a way to fix it.. or to at least prevent Bush from making it worse until we can get a new president in that can fix it... because obviously Bush does not have the answers... in all honesty.. this is probably what will happen.. the Dem's will do everything they can to prevent Bush from changing things up.. because every thing he touches he just makes worse... then we'll take what we have and fix it when he's gone.

Answer 6

I am with you. I don't see what the good would be to pull out now.

I do disagree with you on the Democrats and Press thing, though. I think it is a matter of people agreeing out of fear. If someone disagreed with it, in the time and state of mentality that it was done, that person/those people would have been labeled traitors, and the public would have rose up. If you doubt that, then I am willing to bet you didn't watch the benefit show where Richard Gere went on and tried to discourage anyone reacting with violence, and being booed (I did the very same thing at the time) for it. Same sort of mentality. Now people are thinking clearly and rationally, and realizing that a man and a party used the deaths of over 3,000 fellow Americans and the worst attack on US soil ever to further their own political agenda.

At any rate, the military needs to be allowed to do their job, and the politicians need to keep out, and keep the politics out of it. THAT is where the trouble began.

Answer 7

No I'm with you on that.

We f*cked up by going there in the first place, but in a certain sense we have a responsibility to leave as little mess behind as we can at this point.

What gets me is that some people are still trying to portray this as some "righteous" mission to save the world when anyone with sufficient intellect to objectively look at the BIG picture can see this was a misguided war, started based on lies and half-truths that have been exposed.

This is COMMON knowledge, not an opinon, as much as the neo-cons want to just "wish" reality away by repeating the lies over and over.

Answer 8

No, your right on the money
The same thing happened in Vietnam. Some men, Clark Clifford and McGeorge Bundy for example told LBJ niot to escalate the war in SE Asia. But when the war started going very badly LBJ went back to these guys for advise and they both told him that he had to keep a large force in Nam because he was now to involved and could not cut and run
But that being said Bush made the most collassal error a Prez could make and America bought it hook line and sinker
Its because we as Americans are to lazy and apathetic to preserve our own liberty
We let Bush do this godawful thing

Answer 9

no, you're not. i suppose i am a liberal- though a conservative one. and whether or not we belong in iraq has become a mute question. we are there and what is done is done. in my perfect world, we would draw a line of demarkation between the "war" and the reconstruction. bring in masses of troops, help to clean up the country on every level in a massive, aggressive sweep the while eliminating the bad guys, THEN get out. then again, does anyone really have an answer for this mess?

Answer 10

I think we should bring them home today! Leave it to the Bush and associates and we will be in Iran and syria and god only knows where else. Bush is going to have it such a mess before his sorry rear end leaves office that the blame can be shifted to the New Dem President....make him look like if had more time he could of finished the job.....But we all no that's not possible!

My theory

Answer 11

First of all the dems were in agreement with bush before the war. It is only after the war that they saw a chance to play politics.

You are not the only liberal who thinks that. The word liberal (as I usually use it) of today means a different thing than it did 10 years ago. So you may not be a "liberal" as defined by today's standards.