turbo and nos?

Question

can you have both installed at the same time? how would you use NOS? everybody says you have to use it right, but how would you know when to use it properly?

Answer 1

Yes!

Note that NOS stands for "Nitrous Oxide Systems," a trademark of Holley Performance Products, Inc. Many companies make and market nitrous oxide injection systems and components.

There are several ways to inject N2O (nitrous oxide) into a turbocharged engine, but the use is ultimately the same: you're dumping more oxygen into the engine in order to burn more fuel so that you'll produce more power.

Some people have installed the N2O injector so that the injected fluid inpinges on the compressor's impeller in such a way as to "push it forward."

They're theorizing the mechanical energy from the jet of injected N2O will impart a net increase in force to the impeller, thus helping to overcome or eliminate "turbo lag." This practice has nevertheless fallen into disfavor.

Some people have installed the N2O injector into the intake plumbing ahead or behind the turbo. Injection of N2O produces a localized cryogenic effect (iirc, the flash point is -129 degrees Fahrenheit).

In automotive applications, N2O injection seems to work best when the N2O is injected less than 18 inches from the head of the intake valve itself (remember to add the length of the intake port to the length of the intake runner, plenum and piping).

Any farther than that, and you get 2 problems: (1) the "hit" is weaker, and (2) you end up using a buttload more N2O to get the same power advantage as someone that injected it closer to the intake valve.

If you've already got N2O on your car, knowing when to use N2O is a matter determined by your maturity.

If you're deciding whether to put N2O on your car, remember that a 20-lb bottle is only going to be good for a few passes at the drag strip if you're running a relatively heavy car (I had a 150-shot on a loaded 210-hp '93 Crown Victoria LX).

Laughing gas (N2O) may seem cheap at first, but after you first get it "dialed in" (kits can actually slow your car down when you first put them on), you'll be hooked from the first time you use it -- and then you'll tag the button every time you get on the Interstate or horse around during the week.

And the next thing you know, you're going through 30 pounds per week, and it's like a crack habit or something: you just can't stay away from it -- because your car feels like a slug without it.

A properly-engineered turbo setup won't have any perceptible lag, and will make oodles of power; there are turbocharged Vipers that are driven on the street making over 2,500 horsepower without N2O. Dude, whaddya need that kinda power for?

The great thing about intercooled and superchargered and/or turbocharged engines is that the power adder doesn't "go away when the bottle runs out."

Oh, and you DEFINITELY don't want to be depending on N2O for a race victory, only to discover your bottle fizzled-out at the 600-foot mark -- so you're always paranoid about keeping the bottle full.

The guys at the welding shop or the speed shop will be your dealers, and they'll get to see a lot of you.

Answer 2

While its quite easy to do this setup, having your engine durable enough to handle this is nearly impossible.

Nitrous injection must only be done at full open throttle. You should also have some sort of adjustment to the fuel injection timing and levels.

From there the main concern is shooting out one of many pressure points on your engine, as the nitrous litterally makes the effective air (and adjusted fuel) and therefor the firing much more powerful, causing inordinate amounts of stress. The turbo works to pressurize the air coming from the intake manifold by sucking in like a vacuum (instead of acting on the earth's lower pressure) and forcing it into the chamber.

So the problems of both Nitrous and Turbos only build on themselves. I cannot think of a setup that would give you that potential power that didn't blow your piston, drivetrain, transmission, or even cause some crazy engine block damage.

Answer 3

Yes, theres no reason why you wouldn't be able to use both at the same time. It's done pretty commonly actually. As far as "when to use it" I'm guessing you've been watching too much Fast and Furious.. You don't just press a button and magicly take off nor will your floorboard unbolt itself and fly off like it did in the movie. Nitrous is injected automaticly at wide open throttle. You turn it on, open the bottle and as soon as the pedal is to the metal you get the extra power. Depends on the car but with a small shot and a good tune you should'nt do any harm to your engine. you shouldn;t do it all the time though just like you shouldn't rag on the car or eventually you will break stuff.

Answer 4

Yes, you can use both. All depends on what your using it for. It can be used to cool the incoming air or sprayed into the cylinder at the intake with fuel. along with a charge air cooler Nos can be used to cool down your charge air temp--or used to be able to burn more fuel as an oxidizer. Best way to find out how long--is with a pyro temp gage in the exhaust. best if used between peak torque rps and peak horsepower rpms. the 9 second rule also works. don't exceed 9 seconds of use per every min.

Answer 5

when adding Nitrous Oxide to any fuel system. you need to add more fuel : ie bigger fuel pump to start. just read this...It turns . When you heat nitrous oxide to about 570 degrees F (~300 C), it splits into oxygen and nitrogen. So the injection of nitrous oxide into an engine means that more oxygen is available during combustion. Because you have more oxygen, you can also inject more fuel, allowing the same engine to produce more power. Nitrous oxide is one of the simplest ways to provide a significant horsepower boost to any gasoline engine Nitrous oxide has another effect that improves performance even more. When it vaporizes, nitrous oxide provides a significant cooling effect on the intake air. When you reduce the intake air temperature, you increase the air's density, and this provides even more oxygen inside the cylinder.

The only problem with nitrous oxide is that it is fairly bulky, and the engine needs a lot of it. Like any gas, it takes up a fair amount of space even when compressed into a liquid. A 5-liter engine running at 4,000 rotations per minute (rpm) consumes about 10,000 liters of air every minute (compared to about 0.2 liters of gasoline), so it would take a tremendous amount of nitrous oxide to run a car continuously. Therefore, a car normally carries only a few minutes of nitrous oxide, and the driver uses it very selectively by pushing a button.


Nitrous Oxide
Is a cryogenic gas composed of nitrogen and oxygen molecules
…Is 36% oxygen by weight
…Is non-flammable by itself
…Is stored as a compressed liquid
…Exists in two grades—U.S.P. and Nitrous Plus:
􀂉 U.S.P. is medical grade nitrous oxide; its common use is dental and veterinary anesthesia. It is also commonly used as a
propellant in canned whipped cream. U.S.P. is not available to the public.
􀂉 Nitrous Plus differs from U.S.P. in that it contains trace amounts of sulphur dioxide added to prevent substance abuse. Nitrous
Plus is intended for automotive applications and is available for sale to the public
In automotive applications, Nitrous Plus and fuel are injected into the engine’s intake manifold, which produces the following results:
􀂉 Lowers engine intake air temperature, producing a dense inlet charge.
􀂉 Increases the oxygen content of the inlet charge (air is only 22 percent oxygen by weight).
􀂉 Increases the rate at which combustion occurs in the engine’s cylinders.


i hope this info helps you out

Answer 6

swifter, yet you're able to be able to choose a sprint engine artwork to get some severe enhance out of it. Honda automobiles are good, yet i might advise against working NOS on it. you am i able to think of run like 8 pounds off enhance on a inventory honda motor. i understand the swifter is greater effective than NOS, however the swifter is properly worth it. i might bypass with the swifter, it is plenty safer than the NOS and you wont danger blowing your motor or something as you may with the NOS.

Answer 7

It's not so much "how", but for "how long".

Be prepaired to replace pistons on a regular basis due to melting the top surface of them.