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My boss has started docking our wages if we are late in the morning but not in a fair way- if we are more than 5 minutes late he docks us for a whole hour! We think not only is this unfair but unlawful? What are our rights? I live and work in England so UK laws would apply.

2007-01-11 07:52:33 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Business & Finance Careers & Employment

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I found this very interesting site which mentions this....

"Retrospective consent to deductions from wages

An employer might ask a worker to agree to a change in the terms of his or her contract, or to give his or her consent, to allow for deductions to be made on account of certain conduct. However, if the employer makes a deduction in respect of any instances of such conduct that took place before the contract was varied or the consent obtained, this remains unlawful. The same principle applies to payments by workers to employers.

For example, an employer might obtain a worker's consent to allow for deductions to be made on account of lateness. The employer would then be entitled to make deductions on account of any future incidents of lateness, but would not be entitled to make reductions on account of any such incidents that occurred before the worker's consent was obtained."

So unless it was in your contract or you gave some written consent, then it is unlawful based on lateness itself. If you want to read more about this and other unlawful deductions of wages in the UK then check out the site below.

Hope this helped with your question.

2007-01-11 08:07:55 · answer #1 · answered by Martyr2 7 · 2 0

If this isnt in your contract then he cant do it. If you dont have a contract (written) then the way things 'normally' are would be the rule, so if he's only just started doing this it is a change of your terms and conditions. You should have been consulted about any changes, and if you object to them you can put it in writing to him and say you are working under protest. However, you can only do that for a while, after which you would have to leave, or accept the change. I'm afraid that in the end you'll have to accept it because even if you could take him to a tribunal and get a decision from them, there is no one to actually enforce that decision.
Its normal to have 15 mins deducted for being up to 15 mins late, but an hour seems a bit excessive. It might just be worth talking to him with other colleagues who feel its unfair. It may work.

2007-01-11 16:00:42 · answer #2 · answered by jeanimus 7 · 2 0

Tricky - it does depend what your contract says.

If you have signed a contract that says he is entitled to do this, then that is the position and he has in essence your consent.

On the other hand, if you are late without authorisation, you are breaking your contract too, by not turning up at the agreed start time (albeit only 5 minutes)

Nobody is allowed to make deductions from your wages without your written consent, (with the exception of court orders etc) .

He may argue that if you turn up on time no deduction is made, but if you don't why should he pay you for breaking your side of the bargain

Pose him this question - If I use your calculations (Mr Boss) every time I turn up 5 minutes early, you should pay me an extra hour!! Which by the way is most of the time!

Then tell him the odd time you are 5 minutes late is eaily countered by the 99% of times you turn up more than 5 minutes early, therefore no monies are due to him from your wages and further more he is breaking the law by making deductions that you have not given your written consent to!

Go to your Citizens Advice Bureau too, see what they think.

Or simply tell hime to take his job.....................

2007-01-11 16:15:08 · answer #3 · answered by Wantstohelpu 3 · 1 0

You need to get this sorted, your boss cannot dock your wages because your late, he can only pay you for the time you are there. If I were you I would contact ACAS or visit there site www.acas.co.uk

2007-01-12 12:06:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I have had similar experience.Ring the CAB. I rang the CITIZEN ADVICE BUREAU and they sent me the legislation relating to wage-docking. I told my boss I had been advised by CAB, and they would further help, if I neede further advice.The docking stopped. Try this one. Good Luck.

2007-01-11 16:12:27 · answer #5 · answered by biggi 4 · 1 0

Hello Alfonze h,get down to your local Citizen Avice Bureau ,take your payslip or two ,tell them everything and they will advise you free of charge and help you write a letter, etc., thy can also advise of the minimum wage and your entitlements or you could join a union such as Unison and get many benefits,John Boy

2007-01-11 16:15:35 · answer #6 · answered by john5austin 1 · 1 0

Go to the Citizen's Advice Buro.. who will inturn point you towards the Law Centre who are also free... and deal in employment law... go see these guys.. and you will get free proffesional help plus an ease of mind... see what your collegues thaink im sure there with you... what about a union?.. are you in one?

2007-01-11 16:02:36 · answer #7 · answered by Spooky Mouse 5 · 2 0

Your boss is stupid because some employees might be tempted to dock some of his stock in compensation.

2007-01-11 16:02:33 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

He is not allowed to do that but he does have a right to discipline someone for being late.

2007-01-11 15:57:15 · answer #9 · answered by Dionysia C 2 · 3 0

Well you need to take him to court or you can strike,

i would take him to court, I am not sure about UK laws as I am American but Small claims court should handle this,

and doesn't cost much to file the claim

I would also try to organize the other employees aswell,

Find a new job, and make sure you don't work for that hour that he is docking you,

try this website.
http://www.workplacelaw.net/display.php?resource_id=8125

they will have to pay you arrears

here is another site.
http://employee-benefits.lawyers.com/Employees-Wages-and-Hours-FAQ.html


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2007-01-11 16:10:11 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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