Why are the LIBS GROUSING about BUSH's PLAN?t?

Question

Durbin, just a scant few months ago, was a member of the cabal screw-facing for more troops. So why the flipper all of a sudden?

links???? The spittle that flew from Turbin's very own flapper.....stop with the Olbermann imitations and engage with your own mind...

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close that barn door nice and tight-- after the fact.

Answer 1

Durbin: Send More Troops, But Only To Aid In Ultimate Departure From Iraq


CHICAGO (WBBM) -- Illinois Senator Dick Durbin says he'd go along with the idea of assigning another 50,000 U.S. troops to Iraq, but only to protect them during their departure from, which he says should come no later than Spring of 2008.

http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/149224.php?contentType=4&contentId=260037

Wheres your links?

And Bushes plan has been going very well so far hasn't it.?
Things are going well in Iraq only the American People don't know it because the liberal press is hiding all the GOOD NEWS.

I will accept more troops only for security of our own servicemembers and to train the Iraqis.
I don't care if Iraq has a democracy or a dictatorship.
And that is it.

There were no weapons of mass destruction.
Iraq was not repsonsible for 911.
Saddam was not an emminent threat to the region or to the U.S.

All the things your beloved president and his top aides told us WERE LIES.

Answer 2

Well, I'm not a "LIB" and I'm "grousing" about his plans. First of all, why all this talk about winning the war in Iraq? We deposed Saddam--permanently--and destroyed any weapons he had. Isn't that victory? Now, we are sending more troops. His own generals say either we don't need more troops or the number is too low. Why are we involved in a fight about the heir to Mohammad? That is the dispute between the Sunnis and the Shiitis, you know. It's a religious conflict that has nothing to do with us. We don't do a thing about genocide in Africa, although N.M. Gov. Bill Richardson did secure a 60 day cease fire. Why it took a Democrat from N.M. to do that is beyond me. There's a lot of dictatorships and authoritarian governments we ignore. I'm grousing, as you put it, because we should be concentrating on stopping the ability of Iran and North Korea from getting nuclear weapons. Clinton should have stopped Bin Laden and Pres. Bush should be putting more troops in Afghanistan to stop the terrorists--not into Iraq. We support the most regressive, dictatorial nation in the world, Saudi Arabia, so I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for the Islamics in Iraq who want to kill each other.

Answer 3

The Libs have only two more goals now that they have Congress. The second is to have the White House and the third is to destroy America.

Bush and Rumsfield made a lot of mistakes, but here we are in Iraq after 4 years and we must leave in a responsible manner. Many months ago, way before the Congressional elections, most Dems said they would support a troop increase with a plan. Now that they Bush has offered a plan the Dems feel strong enough to completely oppose Bush no matter what the consequences. Now, many of those Dems have been asked why they claimed they would support a troop increase with a plan in the past and not now. None of them have given a specific response/reason. I, like many others who are actually here in Iraq, see the need to get out, but not to abandon what we have started as a country. Whatever the reason given for this invasion Congress approved it over whelmingly. Don’t give us that crap about it being a lie. The bottom line is we are here and we must leave in a responsible manner. With this increase and a plan, as well as Prime Minister Maliki’s understanding that it is his responsibility, and that of his government and country to work with this new plan, we need to give it a chance. Give this plan 6 months and then reevaluate and decide where to go from there.

Why did I say the last goal of the Libs was to destroy America? Think about this. You can also go to a website, www.bynumbers.com, and watch a great 14 minute presentation, by Roy Beck, on the effects of “legal” immigration on this country. It will show you facts as to how the legal immigration problem alone (not to mention illegal immigration) is about to destroy this country. There is a simple solution to reducing those numbers and curbing that effect. It is by Congress reducing the number back to what it was a few decades ago. This country was created and grew to be the greatest country in the world based on the belief of God and a common law. The Libs have done everything in their power to eliminate God and destroy our judicial system under the disguise of equality and civil rights.

Liberal_h. I guess you really hated my answer judging by your name. Read it again. Our country was built on God and common law. That is why we have been so successful and became such a great country. Good morals, values and principles come from following God and laws. Libs want God out of the picture. That will destroy what is now America. You just don’t see that. Libs, especially the ACLU, want to destroy our judicial system by giving everyone the freedom to do as they please. That too will create chaos and destroy our country. Go to Canada

C = JD: You are correct. The Rules of Engagement in any theater often change and by the supreme Commander. Depending on the area, the local Commander may increase those ROE. Many military Officers are overly concerned about how their command will be judged. That is a mistake in war. During the fogs of war we are always going to have mistakes, poor judgment, even criminal acts. We just need to constantly monitor and adjust from our lessons. The current ROE in Iraq are very restrictive.

Answer 4

Because to many troops have come in coffins , 3,018. Troops so badly maimed to never have a real life, again, Why send 20,000 troops to be slaughtered, start bringing the troops home while there are some left to come home. If you think the libs are wrong then go down to the recruiting office and suit up and be one of the first 20,000 to go.

Answer 5

It's like this.
If you wake up in the morning and you see that you left the barn door open the night before and now all the cows are out in the pasture and they've broken down fences and strayed all over the county, you can't just go out and close the barn door and say everything is good.

That was how you could have handled things the night before but now it takes more.

You have to mend fences and round up cows and fix the damage they did in your neighbors farm and maybe call the vet for things they did to themselves and who knows what its going to take to get your crops back on track for harvest. And then you close the barn door the next night to avoid the same fiasco all over again.

You see what I'm saying? He's closing the barn door after all the cows are out. Bush would say it differently. He'd say:

We have a saying in Texas, or maybe it's Tennessee. I know it's in Texas. Maybe Tennessee? or Mississippi? Close the shed... er door um shame on you.... er after the cows are out... um... or a bunch of bull or something.

Answer 6

There was a story that every culture have this one is about the scorpion and the monkey on the river bank. Scorpion ask for a ride, the monkey said you will sting me, scorpion said don't be silly I will drown too.

So the monkey gave him a ride ,half way across the river the scorpion stung him the monkey said why did you do that we will both drown, scorpion said "IT IS WHAT I DO you knew that". Well to answer your question it is what democrats do.

Answer 7

Pelosi was singing the same song in 2004.

The formula is simple: Whatever Bush supports, support the opposite.

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I believe the number of troops matters less than the rules of engagement. Troops are supposedly prevented from annihilating terrorists because of stringent regulations. How much this is hampering the war effort, I don't know, but I have heard and read this complaint about rules of engagement several times.

Answer 8

I'll tell you one thing - reading this message thread has taught me how incredibly paranoid neocons are.

Libs have two more goals, the White House and then to destroy America?

Please enlighten me... what is the benefit to destroying America that liberals are supposed to achieve?

Answer 9

The polling party is for anything Bush is against and against anything Bush is for... But have yet to provide an alternative plan or exploratory proof which discounts Bush's plan..

Answer 10

I think everybody is worried about Bush's plan-the guy had to replace his two top Generals to get someone to agree with him---sounds crazy but true.