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It is said that everithing was created by God. Ok, but what are the requirements for one to engage in creating something? First and most important comes the Will to do so. Then, if we ask how a general "will" is generated on the subject of the creative action we´ll probably get that "We may only want or will towards something that lacks on our system, for instance, I may wish to have a burger for it´s been months since I last had it. Or I want to be smarter, for now I´m kinda dumb." Ok, then if God actually had a Will to create, it means he must have had something that lacked to him by then, and if thats the case it means he was not in fact perfect, for something was missing. What could possibly be the only thing missing for a truly ideal and perfect being? IMPERFECTION. God therefore could only wish to be imperfect, for that was truly the only missing thing. God is not perfect, and creation is a mistake leading us in the wrong direction, do you agree?

2007-01-10 23:05:09 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

8 answers

No.

Sorry - I don't agree with your logic at all.

Your basic premise is that the will to create is based on a lack of something and you also make a leap of logic in saying that a lack of something infers imperfection. I don't agree with either of these.

Firstly, yes there needs to be a will to create, but there are reasons to create other than a lacking. A child does not create a painting because it lacks something, it creates for the sheer joy of doing so.

Secondly, a lack of something does not define imperfection. The great white shark is often referred to as the "perfect predator" yet it lacks things that we would consider to be essential - intelligence, speech, legs, opposable thumbs. Does this make the shark any less perfect? Does this make humans any better?

I don't necessarily subscribe to the fact that God created everything anyway, but I cannot agree with your philosophy and logic that defines creation as a result of imperfection.

2007-01-10 23:19:28 · answer #1 · answered by the_lipsiot 7 · 5 1

This is a great question...but hard to answer!

"Imperfection" is a term relative to mans' way of thinking. Imperfection is as much a creation of God as is "perfection."

Men choose between the two...God doesn't.

For example, many people think that a severely handicapped baby with birth defects and mental retardation is "imperfect." God doesn't.

It's the same thing with the Will. His Will is perfect. God gave man Free Will which is also perfect. One of the elements of this perfect Free Will is the ability to choose imperfection....the option to choose His way, or our own way.

I'm driving on a road and come to a "T" intersection...I can go left or right. But I want to go straight. The road isn't imperfect...but I decide that it is and choose to drive straight ahead. I am free to do so but I also choose to accept the consequences of my failure to heed my own definition of perfection...which may be driving off a cliff. That would be the perfect result.

2007-01-11 08:27:33 · answer #2 · answered by 4999_Basque 6 · 0 0

The most powerful argument against the traditional monotheistic god is given in "The Problem of Evil." You should be able to do a search to find some info on this argument. I'm not too sure who first presented the argument in its deductive form, but it looks something like this:

Assumption: God is omniscient, omnipotent, and wholly good.

Argument: There is evil in the world. Thus, a god with the aforementioned characteristics cannot exist.

--a classic example here is why a god with all the aforementioned characteristics would allow for the starvation of thousands of innocent children in Africa. If there was a god, would he not lack one of those 3 traits?

--basically, a god with all of those characteristics should prevent evil from happening. The easiest way out of the argument is to admit the lack of ominpotence in a monotheistic god, but this seems contradictory to most peoples' beliefs.

2007-01-11 09:49:47 · answer #3 · answered by rawley_iu 3 · 1 0

I guess it comes down to "who" you "think" God is. It is through the imperfect that that perfection is realized. How else could you truly learn the lessons you need to learn? This creation is not about Gods imperfection, it is about yours. God is in each one of us, It is up to us to find the path. God just provides the means to find "your" way. No mistake... It is made this way on purpose. God wants you to learn, not just to wish for a burger.

2007-01-11 07:30:34 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

A good wordplay, but since God is not 100% definable in human language, there is no proof for or against his existance carried out in a human language. So it's up to you to decide if you think there is a God or not, that's why it's called "belief" and not "knowledge".

2007-01-11 07:14:59 · answer #5 · answered by Rumtscho 3 · 0 0

In the universe there are facts that we do not know of... although science acknowledges their presence.... point is not understanding something does not negate its existence nor does undermine its value and contribution to the universe....

... God is the creator of this universe out of his love, the holy Trinity does not need creation but creation itself reveals the love nature of the holy Trinity..

.... the universe reveals God cause it is part of God!

2007-01-11 07:32:27 · answer #6 · answered by Cheers For All 3 · 0 0

your funny. God is only a contradition when you don't know the Bible and only study philosophy instead of the Word. he is perfect in all things, and the wanting to create something is not an imperfection, its proving it can be done and only a perfect being would would create such as ourselves to prove it.

2007-01-11 07:18:22 · answer #7 · answered by onyx maiden 4 · 1 3

wow...makes you think...nice perspective mate!

2007-01-11 07:16:14 · answer #8 · answered by no_bsht 2 · 0 1

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