I requested and was approved for vacation time by my employer. This time off was requested and approved on December 17th, 2006. The time off is for January 6th and January 9th through the 13th of 2007, respectively. Every year our time off restarts. Since I've been with the company for five years, I am allotted 160 hours of paid time off. 120 hours of that is vacation time. 40 hours of that is optional holidays. According to the new attendance policy (presented to us after January 1st, and AFTER I submitted and was approved for the time off...ergo, I was not properly informed of said policy), we are only allowed to use our optional holiday time within the first two weeks of January. My approved days of January 6th and the 9th - 12th would have been covered since I normally worked 4 hours on January 6th and 9 hours each day on the 9th - 12th, totalling 40 hours of optional time. I was told that I had to drop the 13th. Can make me do this legally being that it is already pre-approved?
2007-01-10 12:28:43 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
It depends what state and country you are in. The laws everywhere are different and are always changing. I would do some research in the relevant government sites over the internet for eg: department of fair trading, workers union etc...
It sounds as though they are kinda giving you a choice.
If they put it to you in the way of : you can still take it off you just won't get paid for it and won't lose that amount of hours off your vacation time, then I don't think they are really breaking any laws. It might not be very fair but at the end of the day, if you are just a number to them, all they are probably worried about is legislation and how they can take advantage of it - not what is fair.
I myself used the line to a general manager and I use it to major companies that I deal with from time to time....
"What you are doing is right from a LEGAL point of view, but put contracts and legislation aside and from one human being to another, I am trying to discuss this with you from a fairness point of view."
It doesn't always mean I get my way - but it's always good to get them to see it from your point of view and agree that it is unfair.
2007-01-10 12:49:58 · answer #1 · answered by miss2sexc 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I used to be a scheduling manager, so let me give you that perspective. A day off request is just that, a request that must be justifiable after all staffing needs have been met.
That being said, if they already approved it, they should honor it (and make you work another day instead). The problem comes in that when were you informed of the new attendance policy (before or after your request)? If before, they can enforce it on you. If after, you can inform them that you had already made plans based on that approval and that you would need to be reimbursed for the cost of the activity that you will have to cancel (this works really good if you tell them you were leaving town).
B-Cool
and no, it's not illegal. Just not good for moral.
2007-01-10 12:40:46 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
They can do whatever they want. I had requested my vacation time a year in advance for my parents 50th wedding anniversary. I had worked 7 years and never took any time off. 3 days before I was supposed to leave they changed their mind. Ya....I could go.....I just wouldn't have a job when I got back. Where's the ACLU when you need them? Coz most of us can't afford to fight it in the courts and like was mentioned earlier....you're boss can make it even harder to work there anymore.
2007-01-10 12:46:35 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I worked at a company with 10,000 people, Had deputy chief general manager who loved pulling stunts like that. One day he choose the wrong guy who taped him. Next day he didn't have a job, soon lost his home and all assets and spent some time in jail. He also had over 1,000 people call the prosector asking to be character witnesses against him.
2007-01-10 12:59:28 · answer #4 · answered by Sid B 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I bet if you look further into your employee handbook you will find that all vacations are subject to change due to supervisor approval and business needs.... I'm not sure of the reason for pulling you back a day, but I bet you can find it somewhere in the handbook saying that they can. Good luck.
2007-01-10 12:43:02 · answer #5 · answered by Couple of Cents 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Look if you want to be nit picky about it then ya sue them and milk them for a few hundred dollars mabye a thousand,but think about this your boss will be mad at you,and if you want to keep the job I suggest you sue,but even though he can't fire you for it im sure he can make your life miserable. So my advice is just inform them of it and if they say buzz off forget it.
2007-01-10 12:39:05 · answer #6 · answered by fred 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes they can. There is nothing illegal about it. Unless you had an employment contract stating that they had to give you more notice, you're stuck with it.
2007-01-10 12:38:08 · answer #7 · answered by cyanne2ak 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
eh, just sue them. Get money...retire for life.(dont forget to give me some $)
2007-01-10 12:42:48 · answer #8 · answered by pav2873 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋