Why cant you liberals see that what is going on in Iraq isnt JUST going around killing people?

Question

do you not know that they have rules of engagement and that they have 7 rules they must go through BEFORE they shoot? Do you not know that while we are searching out the killers we are also doing humanitarian work? http://www.kmax.ws/b/goodnewsiniraq.htm
http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom1/Shared%20Documents/newsroom.aspx

you are right we cant go around and find everyone that wants to kill but if we show the people in the middle east that there leaders are using them and exastrabating their problems they will side with freedom. It will take an overhaul of their understandings of the rest of the world to stop the terror. remember it took people like Martin Luther to stop the catholic inquisition. Someone of the people had to show the everyday masses that what is going on was wrong.

Answer 1

I totally understand that our military has "rules of engagement". While many Conservatives despise this rule, I think it is one of the things that sets us apart from other nations and from terrorists.

On the other hand, why do you have such a hard time accepting that this war shouldn't have happened for any of the reasons that were given to us?

We need to fight the "war on terror". That means getting cooperation with nations around the globe and taking out terrorist cells where they exist. Not attacking and occupying countries. That is not the "war on terror".

Do a google search on "Iraq oil" and read all the latest of what is in the "news". It looks very suspicious that this war was all about oil and not about terrorism.

people in that region, including terrorists, do not hate our freedom, they hate our occupation of Iraq and our alliance with Israel.

Answer 2

What is going on in Iraq is a quagmire. We aren't there to police a civil war, and we will be there forever if that is the "mission." The Iraq mess is a huge disaster, and is effecting our ability to use our military elsewhere. It need to be stopped, and we need to bring our troops home.

Secondly, what did Martin Luther do to stop the Inquisition? Martin Luther was a huge anti-Semite and never did anything to help the Jews, the main victims of the Inquisition. Some Lutherans were put to death by the Inquisition, but by many accounts that number was less than 20 people of the tens of thousands banished or executed. Napoleon succeeded in dissolving the it, but it did come back a couple of times after Napoleons domination of Europe.

Answer 3

Rational liberals don't think that soldiers go around indiscriminately killing people any more than rational conservatives think that every single Iraqi killed in the conflict was a terrorist in training.

Bad things happen to innocent people during wars. That's the reality of the situation. If the good outweighs the bad, it can be possible to justify the war, but it doesn't make the bad aspects a fantasy of the liberal mindset. Unfortunately, the overall effect of the occupation of Iraq has been overwhelmingly negative. Iraq appears to be in chaos, there seems to be no end to terrorist and insurgent recruitment, and there's no particular reason to think America and the rest of the world are safer for it. You don't need to be a liberal to question the choice of going to war there, especially when America was the instigator.

Answer 4

The American soldiers in Guantanamo refused the inmates access to the Koran for a long time. Is that part of the war on terror? Or is that religious bigotry ?
I'll make it really really easy for you to understand.
If an American soldier was captured and his crucifix was ripped off what would the esteemed American press say? Let me guess..."Fanatical Rag-head rips The Lord's crucifix off brave soldier's neck". Is there any difference?

In Iraq there is a shoot to kill policy. The Americans fire first , with small arms, artillery and planes and then ask the old man walking his grand-child whether he is a terrorist after (this happened).

The world is LESS secure now that it was before Bush and Blair ran off looking for Weapons Of Mass Destruction that did NOT exist...FACT !

1000 people are murdered every month in Iraq . That is ONE THOUSAND human beings. Is Iraq better off ?

Ordinary law-abiding Muslims are being turned into fundamentalists every day exactly because of the so-called "War on Terror". Is that winning ? My *ss it is.

Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. NOTHING. The American CIA even stated this not long after 9/11. Bin-Laden hated Saddam as much as he hates you and me.

Wake up and smell the coffee before we all get blown up.

Answer 5

by now most americans simply KNOW that we will never get any payback for the 9/11 attacks in iraq.

this is the main reason why i simply don't care about what happens to iraq.

as far as the army doing huminatarian work goes, i think you know very well that when this war was being 'sold' to the american people the idea that we would do humanitarian work was not listed as a reason for going to war.

the president's war policy has all of the common sense of a police department in a city beseiged by a serial killer bragging about thefts going down, but doing nothing about the serial killers.

the serial killers attacked us on 9/11 and the govt has not lifted a finger to actually do anything about it.

i can't for the life of me understand war supporters - as each day passes and i read arguments like this one, i understand them less and less...

Answer 6

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Answer 7

This is a logical fallacy. You cannot create a "law" to justify your own unethical behavior and criminal actions. You cannot invade sovereign countries, destroy their infrastructure and kill their citizens just because you want to steal their oil supply. It is hypocritical to call your country "democratic" when you violate democratic principles on a daily basis. It is not about "evil" or "good", it is about your selfish interests. So drop the flowery speeches of "helping" poor Iraqis, Afghanis, etc. I hope no one will need your "help" after you've "helped" Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Lebanon, and others.

Answer 8

It's always good to hear from you brave souls on the front line in Iraq, Captain.

Answer 9

I know what you mean!

Maybe the rules of engagement are too restrictive.

Answer 10

They cannot see it because they are blinded by hate of Bush and prefer to wallow in their own ignorance instead of being open minded.